Posted by sebstar:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by GKFv2:
Yet giving up on Hill after he's been with the Knicks about 4 months as a rookie. Don't understand that one.
I hate you guys sometimes.
Nobody has "given up" on Hill. He just looks terrible and he's getting called out. And remind me when Hill has averaged 20 pts in the NBA.
Maybe we should define the word bust then.
To me there is a difference between saying a guy is currently terrible and needs a lot of work to turn into a good player, and calling a guy a "bust". Maybe it's just that I'm not on the same page as everyone else with the definition for this term.
Its all semantics, but I just think its a way to communicate that you dont have much faith that a player can turn it around. Similar to how down people are about Eddy. Im the first cat to get on Knick fans for being too myopic about our players, but in Hill's case, however, he has shown us nothing so far. He's been hideous. Nothing I can hang my hat on and say, yeah he'll improve.
[Edited by - sebstar on 10-07-2009 12:47 PM]
I think that's fair. I don't think I disagree with any of the assessments on Hill. He has not looked good. That being said the physical tools are there. The question is can he put them to any use in the NBA. Tough to measure his heart and capacity to learn. All I know is that he showed tremendous improvement in college in a short period of time. No guarantee he can make that adjustment at the NBA level, but to me it's still encouraging. Regardless of what we think of him, he has shown an ability to learn and improve.
Sebstar I take you out of the group I'm talking about. But it just seems like we have a set group of fans that are just in a hurry to label everyone a bust. I just don't understand the rush. I wanted Derozan. I prayed for Derozan. I was extremely disappointed when he was not selected. That being said, time to move on.