Posted by jimimou:

Posted by orangeblobman:

^yea, but check it out rambee, darko has a sweet jumper and he's a face up player, and they just weren't cultivating him properly, mda can do this, so a huge leap is almost certainly around the corner. i think someone started a post a long time ago about what you think darko would average, and the overwhelming consensus was something like 14/9/3blocks, so that's serious stuff.

i dont think that was anywhere near the 'overwhelming consensus' - that may have been your own consensus. if darko is gonna be good for this team, he needs to show he can play more than 6-10 minutes a game. why do you insist on crowning him w something he hasnt proven yet? isnt it a wait and see year for everyone on the squad?

oh, and btw, only person to come close to 3 blocks per game for the season last year was dwight howartd (2.9). next closest was birdman at 2.4. matter of fact, only five people blocked more than 2 per game last year. what makes you think darko gets 3 this year? can you ellaborate?

I'm not so quick to give anyone the automatic nod to start besides Harrington, Duhon and Lee. Even with those guys, you can make a case that they'd be coming off other teams benches.

However, you are especially correct with Darko and even Gallo. They haven't shown a thing in this league besides the fact that one can shoot and the other can block some shots. They both need to earn it. Everyone on the team needs to earn it, as a matter of fact.

Basically to summarize things... first its way to early to say anything especially about guys like Darko and even Gallo... second MDA will have to find a way to make things work with the flawed guys he has... third every assumption about a starting 5 at this point is based on last season performences or even projected performences based on talent.

So basically its a wait and see. Difference to the past years is... this year actually its kind of fun with all the little side themes (Gallos and Chandlers potential, our FA and how they will perform, the summer of 2010 etc.)!!!
So Go Knicks!!!

^^^to your point afan20, my gut tells me that harrington is gonna have a good year. he seems jacked and ready to play. gallo will play well this year as dantoni is gonna feature him alot. up to the youngster to show the goods to be a keeper. chandler should play better also. you will get the same production out of duhon, lee and nate (which isnt bad) and the rest of the team...is just that...the rest of the team. i have no high hopes for any of them.


i'll hang my ass out on one thing though, again, a gut instinct, but i think the big x factor this year is hughes - i know i know, i am crazy. but agent bizzero needs a new contract and does have talent. i think he goes off this year to make some money and the knicks will benefit in terms of wins. there i said it. let the ridicule begin...

[Edited by - jimimou on 09-29-2009 1:27 PM]

Posted by PresIke:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Starting Lee at center is pretty much a give up on the season.

We've got to get Darko up to speed or it will be a long year.

dude, it's the first lineup of camp.

no big deal. basically, all of guys from last year, who all know mda's system.

giving up on the season seems like a bit of stretch, no?

Its the beginning of mad scientist time for MDA. He is going to be mixing and matching his "ingredients" in an attempt to find his best lineup, which guys work well with each other, and to see who he is going to keep.

I like the fact that Gallo is with the group mentioned, but don't put much importance on it at this time.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 09-29-2009 4:22 PM]

Posted by djsunyc:

if that's the starting lineup - what are your thoughts on d'antoni's defensive philosphy?

We all know that D'Antoni's defensive philosophy boils down to scoring more points than the opponent.

But I don't know that any coach would calculate that the (+) Darko gives you in shot-blocking justifies the start when he is a (-) in everything else. The guy is a borderline liability on offense.

In fact, I would wager the (+) that Lee gets you in defensive rebounds (finishing opponents possessions) goes some way toward evening out Darko's ability to challenge shots.

sheesh

You guys are like a bunch of sorority sisters gossiping over a pair of patent leather shoes on sale. The first day of drills and the Knicks starting lineup has been set in stone?

c'mon, everybody knows it will be

The Sun

The Mayor

The Gallo

Mister Lee

Jordan Hill

Jared will play more than Jordan Hill this year.

nyk4ever - don't get it confused bro. The Answer Man is the leader of The Pom Pom Girls.

Posted by misterearl:

nyk4ever - don't get it confused bro. The Answer Man is the leader of The Pom Pom Girls.

Took the words right out from under me, AnswerMan.

If Jordan Hill hasn't beaten out Jared Jeffries on the depth chart by February I'm opening up another inquisition on Walsh's behind for passing on Brandon Jennings.