Posted by JohnWallace44:

Curry was "good" for a few weeks there, reaching a high point in the game where we beat Orlando, but so what?

Other than that he has been a fat slob who doesn't bring anything on defense, doesn't rebound, doesn't box out, doesn't pass, causes turnovers with players trying to force the ball into him...

There are plenty of things that I wish I didn't remember about Curry. And especially things that I wish other GM's around the league didn't remember.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

Posted by crzymdups:

i'd be really excited if we had Sessions on board and could run a five of:

Sessions
Wilson
Gallo
Dlee
Hill

how sweet would that be?

[Edited by - crzymdups on 22-09-2009 12:26 PM]

Would Gallo be the only shooter in your 5? Sessions is so last month though. In any event, I can't really get excited about a lineup with Lee because he doesn't defend anything. Balkman was able to put up double-doubles when given minutes. Hill will put up double-doubles if given minutes (except he may get fouls since he seems to play D).

Most of my hope and excitement is really only based upon optimism that our new players will be better than they project (i.e. a healthy Gallo becomes a stud, Darko flourishes with MikeD, Curry is dominant, Hill is Amare-lite, Hughes is healthy and acts like this is Washington, etc...).

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Curry was "good" for a few weeks there, reaching a high point in the game where we beat Orlando, but so what?

Other than that he has been a fat slob who doesn't bring anything on defense, doesn't rebound, doesn't box out, doesn't pass, causes turnovers with players trying to force the ball into him...

There are plenty of things that I wish I didn't remember about Curry. And especially things that I wish other GM's around the league didn't remember.

your right but it doesnt matter. Beauty in the eye of the bukkake launcher.

We only need to present Curry as a usefull player. After that all we need is a GM looking for size (they always are) to bite on a shot at a 25 year old 6'11 guy thats scoring at close 60%.

or ny can keep curry and turn him into the next ewing

Posted by RemBee76:

Posted by kam77:

I hope Eddy Curry puts up some good numbers so we can get rid of him.

What numbers will Eddy have to put up for teams to forget that he saw a significant drop in production a year after his best season and put up more fouls than minutes the year after that? How will we/eddy convince a GM that he will sustain those numbers while taking up (at least) 20% of their space under the cap?

Those are going to have to be some impressive numbers.

We will move Jared Jeffries before the trade deadline, even if we have to include some sweets to do it. D'Antoni is going to have to figure out a way to use Eddy because he's ours.

At least until 2011.

Posted by PresIke:

Posted by EwingsGlass:

Posted by crzymdups:

i'd be really excited if we had Sessions on board and could run a five of:

Sessions
Wilson
Gallo
Dlee
Hill

how sweet would that be?

[Edited by - crzymdups on 22-09-2009 12:26 PM]

Would Gallo be the only shooter in your 5? Sessions is so last month though. In any event, I can't really get excited about a lineup with Lee because he doesn't defend anything. Balkman was able to put up double-doubles when given minutes. Hill will put up double-doubles if given minutes (except he may get fouls since he seems to play D).

Most of my hope and excitement is really only based upon optimism that our new players will be better than they project (i.e. a healthy Gallo becomes a stud, Darko flourishes with MikeD, Curry is dominant, Hill is Amare-lite, Hughes is healthy and acts like this is Washington, etc...).

lee's value goes far beyond "double doubles," since he is also a highly efficient scorer that does not need the ball in his hands to be effective. good teams need players like that. if getting a double double was so easy then why do so few players meet this criteria?

lee was getting close to, or at a double-double coming off the bench. i like the prospects for hill, but i wouldn't say he is a sure double-double machine already.

as much as i liked the balkster, there is no way he is as good as lee, and i hardly think lee would find himself on the end of the bench of a good team like the nuggets. consistency is one of lee's strengths and in no way has balkman found that groove.

it almost...and i will say almost, still amazes me how lowly some knick fans value lee. is he an all-star player that should command $10-12 mil? no, not at this point and a major reason i think he remains unsigned...but folks have to take into account the restricted status of his free-agency as well. everyone knows his defense is not good at all, and i wish he'd take more charges...playing that style more on the defensive end. however, he is the consummate team player, improved his offensive game -- adding more of a post-game and improved his outside shot.

am i married to him as part of the knicks? not necessarily, because pretty much not one player on this team is unmovable because we still have no super star caliber player.

First, thanks for the well thought out response. Its not so much that I think lowly of Lee, I just do not value his stats very highly. Perhaps the things he does well, I don't appreciate (kind of like my gf and me)... I think by the nature of the knicks, somebody has to get those rebounds. I love Lee's hustle but I don't see the same hustle on D and it begs the question--why not? I mean, a guy like Udonis Haslem can put up the same rebound numbers as Lee, but brings a better work ethic to Defense and is a team leader. I think Lee is a role player on offense and empty on D. I just need more than that.