Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Marv:

legend, i took his speech as being the kind of roast that players would give one another if they were being honest and not playing up to the cameras. that’s why i liked it. i really don't need to watch mj gushing up to his family or making some political speech. i want to hear lockerroom trash-talking about his peers and doing them up while they're sitting right there in the audience. i thought it was a good time, and rally didn’t need the window-dressing variation.

I can agree with this on most occasions, but this isn't lockerroom trash talk. This is an induction into the hall of fame, and this is supposed to be one of the most humbling moments of his life where he realizes all of the people that's helped him, and I'm not talking about the guys he posterized.

With that said, he never was known for his class, so why is everybody surprised?

Posted by LivingLegend:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Marv:

legend, i took his speech as being the kind of roast that players would give one another if they were being honest and not playing up to the cameras. that’s why i liked it. i really don't need to watch mj gushing up to his family or making some political speech. i want to hear lockerroom trash-talking about his peers and doing them up while they're sitting right there in the audience. i thought it was a good time, and rally didn’t need the window-dressing variation.

I can agree with this on most occasions, but this isn't lockerroom trash talk. This is an induction into the hall of fame, and this is supposed to be one of the most humbling moments of his life where he realizes all of the people that's helped him, and I'm not talking about the guys he posterized.

With that said, he never was known for his class, so why is everybody surprised?

hey he cried his eyes out when he first got up there. that was for real. then he got into it!

you guys are going soft on me

His tears were for himself. Most people in these moments have tears because they realize the magnitude of what other people have done for them to help them get to this point. Their tears are tears of thanks & recognition that they wouldn't be standing on that stage without the support of hundreds of people who touched their lives.

I have no problem with good natured trash talking - that is funny and Jordan's speech included some of that. It was the unnecessary immature remarks he made at folks like Krause, Thompson, Zeke, Gervin, Bird, Riley, etc that were tacky and tasteless.

If I were the only one who felt this way I would think I took the speech the wrong way but I've already read at least 3 articles that basically share my position.

The guy mentioned his father for 3 whole seconds...."obviously it starts with my parents" and "I got my competitiveness from my father" -- that's it....and about his mother "I love her to death - she still calls me up today and tells me not to say this or not to say that". Boy those are profound words from a loving son. Listen to the words he speaks about his kids and they will leave you feeling like he doesn't even know them.

Just a tacky speech -- no matter how you cut it.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I gotta be honest. I watched his whole speech and the ONLY time I thought he was being an ass is when he mentioned Krause, but you know what, Krause probably deserved it in the end anyway.