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GoNyGoNyGo
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12/13/2003  10:06 PM
LOL, one win at home and all is well now huh?

First off, the world now sees that FWILL is the best PG, the Knicks have. Let's let him play like 35 mins a night already!

#2 - Notice KVH was not on the court in the 4th?

#3 - If Dice's knee was going to give out due to the same injury, it would have already. The knee looks sound. If he gets hurt again it will not be the same thing.

#4 - Ny played well in the 4th because there was no constant subbing. Finally chaney played the guys that were playing well.


One vicotry against the Nuggets means nothing more than we beat a team on a back en of a back to back and the last game of a road trip. That is it.
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12/13/2003  10:07 PM
But Kt is better then Dice & KVH IMHO get's more boards and just out works them

He should get all Front court back up minutes with a few for Shandon behind KVH.Start Ward And give Frank all back up Pg and sg minutes only play Howard if in foul trouble
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12/13/2003  10:08 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

dude you must've been watching the wrong game. Dice was awesome! he can actually be counted on to score in the 4th unlike KT.

KT is injured

Still think he is timid on offense
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12/13/2003  10:08 PM
Nice win tonight against a pretty solid team. Its about time that losing streak ended-- I think Dice played to many minutes tonight because there is a game tomorow and his knee is gonna be stiff.
also- now KTs knee is keeping him from playing! the 3 best knicks have only 3 good knees between them!!!

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12/13/2003  10:11 PM
Right i agree HD

Can Kt suit up tommorow? let's hope so

This win meens nonething if we lose to that jack ass Arenas

[Edited by - CanadianKnicksFan on 12/13/2003 22:12:03]
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12/13/2003  10:15 PM
yeah Dice,Williams,Deke,Houston,KVH did there thing.
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12/13/2003  10:17 PM
Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

LOL, one win at home and all is well now huh?

First off, the world now sees that FWILL is the best PG, the Knicks have. Let's let him play like 35 mins a night already!

#2 - Notice KVH was not on the court in the 4th?

#3 - If Dice's knee was going to give out due to the same injury, it would have already. The knee looks sound. If he gets hurt again it will not be the same thing.

#4 - Ny played well in the 4th because there was no constant subbing. Finally chaney played the guys that were playing well.


One vicotry against the Nuggets means nothing more than we beat a team on a back en of a back to back and the last game of a road trip. That is it.



Excuse me gony, how could you leave out the knicks smothering defense in the 4th qtr. They played for chaney again and you can't give him credit huh? Stop hating and start relating ... knicks are still going to playoffs and the league better take notice !
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12/13/2003  10:20 PM
if van horn came in for shandon in the 4th he would've ruined it because he sat out for too long. plus he can't guard Melo, shandon did a nice job.
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12/13/2003  10:23 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

if van horn came in for shandon in the 4th he would've ruined it because he sat out for too long. plus he can't guard Melo, shandon did a nice job.
Agreed

You think Allan & Dice will be effective against Wiz?

What is the exact situation with Kt, hope he is just day to day.

This sore new of Kt's must have been bothering him out west
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12/13/2003  10:25 PM
I need to see more from Diceaman tommorow

18 & 8 tommorow would make me a believer
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12/13/2003  10:26 PM
Of coarse the Wiz have been getting their asses kicked all over the NBa but we will find away to make them look like the lakers
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12/13/2003  10:27 PM
playa2 said:
"Excuse me gony, how could you leave out the knicks smothering defense in the 4th qtr. They played for chaney again and you can't give him credit huh? Stop hating and start relating ... knicks are still going to playoffs and the league better take notice !"

Dude they lost 6 in a row! They finally got a team on a back end of a back to back, the other team was beat. In addition, notice KVh was out. Notice Eisley sat. The best defenders were in the game for NY. That might have helped. This begs the question as to why chaney hasn't done this yet this season.

Are you honestly still defending this man as a coach? Please. NY is 8-16. On pace for 28-54! I dont think they will be that bad, but to get to .500, they will have to play 33-25, the rest of the season. Is it possible? yes it should be. The talent is there in my estimation. Is the coaching? Hasn't beene there yet. I give Chaney credit for finally benchin KVH, Eisley and Ward in the 4th quarter and playing MUTOMBO big minutes at the end. I bet if KT was there, Mutombo would have sat.

Also, unrelated to playa2, Carmelo Anthony has ICE in his veins. This kid will be great as he gets older.


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12/13/2003  10:29 PM
excellent points GoNYGo

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12/13/2003 22:29:33]
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12/13/2003  10:30 PM
Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

playa2 said:
"Excuse me gony, how could you leave out the knicks smothering defense in the 4th qtr. They played for chaney again and you can't give him credit huh? Stop hating and start relating ... knicks are still going to playoffs and the league better take notice !"

Dude they lost 6 in a row! They finally got a team on a back end of a back to back, the other team was beat. In addition, notice KVh was out. Notice Eisley sat. The best defenders were in the game for NY. That might have helped. This begs the question as to why chaney hasn't done this yet this season.

Are you honestly still defending this man as a coach? Please. NY is 8-16. On pace for 28-54! I dont think they will be that bad, but to get to .500, they will have to play 33-25, the rest of the season. Is it possible? yes it should be. The talent is there in my estimation. Is the coaching? Hasn't beene there yet. I give Chaney credit for finally benchin KVH, Eisley and Ward in the 4th quarter and playing MUTOMBO big minutes at the end. I bet if KT was there, Mutombo would have sat.

Also, unrelated to playa2, Carmelo Anthony has ICE in his veins. This kid will be great as he gets older.

KT has worked his ass for this team and is more then capable of holding his own against Nene or Bambi in the 4rth
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12/13/2003  10:39 PM
I figured you COULDN'T give the knicks defense credit. You hate for me to call a game. I didn't see the last few games I have been on vacation, but when I came back I see we haven't missed a beat. Like I told you and others I see this team getting stronger as the season goes on and all you bring up is nit picky faults from a tough road trip after a win tonight. Go bash the nets who lost by 40 aight! NEXT

[Edited by - play
a2 on 12/13/2003 22:40:19] That back to back comment was bogus ...Denver was 5-2 on back to back games son.

[Edited by - playa2 on 12/13/2003 22:41:34]
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12/13/2003  10:42 PM
Hubie's guys kicked the crap out of the ****nets


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12/13/2003  10:51 PM
Denver was playing the last game of a 3 game trip tot he East. (you should know, you saw the 1st game in atlanta). This game was the second of a back to back, coming off a big win in Philly and before taking a plane back home. Look it up, it is rare for a ROAD team to win this type of game.

As for giving credit, can you not read? I gave Chaney credit for playing defensive players, ackowleding that the D was good. The question, is where is the rotation on a normal basis? I know you are not too good with questions.

I find it very funny that yo are CONVENIENTLY out of town for a 6 game losing streak, but as soon as NY wins 1 game at home against a tired team, you come out of the wood work, praising them like they are the second coming!

As for the Nets, Memphis is a very nice team. They will contend for the playoffs. They have a coach and a GM with ideas of what to do. The Nets got schooled, but who cares? I hate the Nets.

KT can handle Camby and nene, but NY neesds Mutmobo in the game for his shot blocking. The fact is KT is not the intimidator inside that Mutombo still is.
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12/13/2003  10:53 PM
Dont even try and say they played defense for Chaney Playa2. Their record speaks for itself. This is a pretty decent roster and all Chaney has done for the last 24 games is make one bad decision after another.

The losing streak is over and thats the only thing that has changed. We still urgently need a change at Head Coach! He is without a question not suited for this job.
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12/13/2003  11:02 PM
Posted by CanadianKnicksFan:

Hubie's guys kicked the crap out of the ****nets

WOW! They really kicked the crap out of the Nets!
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12/13/2003  11:06 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

I think the knicks are going to win tonite. I heard on WFAN that Dice might not play tonite. Anyone know anything about that?

Knicks win by 7. I'm always optimistic on gamenights though.
I called it! Knicks did win by 7!
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