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Does Cap Space The Way It Is now tend to hurt teams like the Knicks more than other teams? What if they raised it another 25 mil
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Papabear
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8/26/2009  6:32 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Papabear:

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I think that the way the NBA is designed is to keep team like the Knicks down. One thing I must say though if it takes getting rid of everyone who is on the team now in order to get a real superstar, we must do it now. Because without that main man you are almost doomed. Without Kobe the lakers would have won nothing. Phil Jackson is a great coach and I don't want to take that away from him. The only way he would be deemed the greatest coach of all time is to get a team like the Knicks and build it and win a title. he would then be the greatest coach of all times.

The knicks are where they are because isiah thomas put them there. did the league tell him to pick up stephon marbury, anfernee hardawy, jamal crawford, jalen rose, steve francis, eddy curry, zach randolph, jared jeffries, etc? i think not.

Papabear Says
The Knicks were in trouble way before that! There is enough to blame everyone starting with giving Huston 100 mil Trading Ewing for nothing. Hey lets be real. Isiah tried to win now and it backfired on him. I'll be the 1st to say Isaih messed up big time. They should have setteled that law suit with that Lady.With Marbs it goes to show you that it takes more than just talent. It takes brains and Marbs was lacking in that. Nate have talent but his attitude will cost him millions and maybe an early exit from the NBA Some guys are just stupid and dumb.
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Marv
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8/26/2009  6:40 PM
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says
I think that the way the NBA is designed is to keep team like the Knicks down. One thing I must say though if it takes getting rid of everyone who is on the team now in order to get a real superstar, we must do it now. Because without that main man you are almost doomed. Without Kobe the lakers would have won nothing. Phil Jackson is a great coach and I don't want to take that away from him. The only way he would be deemed the greatest coach of all time is to get a team like the Knicks and build it and win a title. he would then be the greatest coach of all times.

The knicks are where they are because isiah thomas put them there. did the league tell him to pick up stephon marbury, anfernee hardawy, jamal crawford, jalen rose, steve francis, eddy curry, zach randolph, jared jeffries, etc? i think not.

Papabear Says
The Knicks were in trouble way before that! There is enough to blame everyone starting with giving Huston 100 mil Trading Ewing for nothing. Hey lets be real. Isiah tried to win now and it backfired on him. I'll be the 1st to say Isaih messed up big time. They should have setteled that law suit with that Lady.With Marbs it goes to show you that it takes more than just talent. It takes brains and Marbs was lacking in that. Nate have talent but his attitude will cost him millions and maybe an early exit from the NBA Some guys are just stupid and dumb.

fair enough. i was just refuting the statement "I think that the way the NBA is designed is to keep team like the Knicks down." i think we did it entirely to ourselves.
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8/26/2009  7:47 PM
Cap SPACE should never be a negative. In time the Knicks with a more responsible cap number will be able to turn things around. most of this perception we have now is due to impatience. By 2011 the Knicks will not only be a team with talent, but cap space and flexibility. We just need to realize that it's gonna take time to get there. By then who knows what other great talents may emerge, but we'll be in a position to actually get that talent at that time, so there's no penalty at all.
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8/26/2009  9:17 PM
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says
I think that the way the NBA is designed is to keep team like the Knicks down. One thing I must say though if it takes getting rid of everyone who is on the team now in order to get a real superstar, we must do it now. Because without that main man you are almost doomed. Without Kobe the lakers would have won nothing. Phil Jackson is a great coach and I don't want to take that away from him. The only way he would be deemed the greatest coach of all time is to get a team like the Knicks and build it and win a title. he would then be the greatest coach of all times.

The knicks are where they are because isiah thomas put them there. did the league tell him to pick up stephon marbury, anfernee hardawy, jamal crawford, jalen rose, steve francis, eddy curry, zach randolph, jared jeffries, etc? i think not.

Papabear Says
The Knicks were in trouble way before that! There is enough to blame everyone starting with giving Huston 100 mil Trading Ewing for nothing. Hey lets be real. Isiah tried to win now and it backfired on him. I'll be the 1st to say Isaih messed up big time. They should have setteled that law suit with that Lady.With Marbs it goes to show you that it takes more than just talent. It takes brains and Marbs was lacking in that. Nate have talent but his attitude will cost him millions and maybe an early exit from the NBA Some guys are just stupid and dumb.

The Knicks did MUCH worse than trading him for nothing. They traded him for overpaid Glen Rice on the rapid decline, and a washed up Longley that eventually became overpaid Eisley, Shandon, etc. etc. If they let him expire, they would have been better off with the cap space.
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8/26/2009  9:25 PM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says
I think that the way the NBA is designed is to keep team like the Knicks down. One thing I must say though if it takes getting rid of everyone who is on the team now in order to get a real superstar, we must do it now. Because without that main man you are almost doomed. Without Kobe the lakers would have won nothing. Phil Jackson is a great coach and I don't want to take that away from him. The only way he would be deemed the greatest coach of all time is to get a team like the Knicks and build it and win a title. he would then be the greatest coach of all times.

The knicks are where they are because isiah thomas put them there. did the league tell him to pick up stephon marbury, anfernee hardawy, jamal crawford, jalen rose, steve francis, eddy curry, zach randolph, jared jeffries, etc? i think not.

Papabear Says
The Knicks were in trouble way before that! There is enough to blame everyone starting with giving Huston 100 mil Trading Ewing for nothing. Hey lets be real. Isiah tried to win now and it backfired on him. I'll be the 1st to say Isaih messed up big time. They should have setteled that law suit with that Lady.With Marbs it goes to show you that it takes more than just talent. It takes brains and Marbs was lacking in that. Nate have talent but his attitude will cost him millions and maybe an early exit from the NBA Some guys are just stupid and dumb.

The Knicks did MUCH worse than trading him for nothing. They traded him for overpaid Glen Rice on the rapid decline, and a washed up Longley that eventually became overpaid Eisley, Shandon, etc. etc. If they let him expire, they would have been better off with the cap space.

We were bad before Isiah Thomas, but not THAT bad. This much is obvious in the fact that Donnie Walsh mostly cleared our cap situation in some 7 months, the same miserable situation he inherited from IT, which was MUCH worse than what IT inherited.

So let's be real. Had someone of DW's caliber stepped in after Layden, we might be looking back at a championship by now.
WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
Does Cap Space The Way It Is now tend to hurt teams like the Knicks more than other teams? What if they raised it another 25 mil

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