Posted by BasketballJones:

The point is we should all be more like Nalod and stop constantly antagonizing the cops the way we do. If we could only learn that, they wouldn't have to arrest us for being angry at home.

Lesson: Be like Nalod.

or dont drive a racially 'profile-able' car....dont even know if thats a word but FTW i made it!

[Edited by - jimimou on 08-14-2009 4:03 PM]

Posted by newyorknewyork:

The question is why should cops be allowed to treat you with disrespect and abuse power for the times they do.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by martin:

Posted by newyorknewyork:

The question is why should cops be allowed to treat you with disrespect and abuse power for the times they do.

people of all race, color, background have abused power when they get it. Cops, CEO's, politicians, superintendents, etc. For some, it's human nature.

yeah & in most cases we refer to those people as tyrants, dictators or just plain a-holes... abuse of power is wrong any way you slice it.

Absolutely.
But it is not about how they abuse it, but about how you deal with them.
First is out of your hands, second is all up to you.
Don't let them distract you out of you calm ways and they will have non of you.

Posted by arkrud:

Absolutely.
But it is not about how they abuse it, but about how you deal with them.
First is out of your hands, second is all up to you.
Don't let them distract you out of you calm ways and they will have non of you.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by tkf:

yea, I don't mess with the police.I try to give them what they want and move on. If I am wronged I fight it in court. No way you going to win any kind or argument or altercation with the po po's on the street. Be smart, get home, handle your problems in court...

neither do i tkf, i don't mess w/cops either... when i got arrested the arresting officer treated me w/respect & courtesy & i responded in kind... had to spend a night in central holding but the charges were dropped eventually & i let due process take its course... that doesn't always happen tho, & you may find yourself in a more volatile situation w/some volatile cops... until you've been in a situation like that i dunno how anyone thinks they can comment on how someone else should feel or behave... but that's just me.

yea. I have friends down here that are law enforcement, One was shot in the elbow during a routine stop last year. So I know what these guys go through. But some of these cats are just down right wrong... the problem is, some of them want to be provoked into whooping your azz in the streets. You just won't win that battle in the streets. Personally, I am not fond of most cops because I know how the city operates. Short on cash, they sit around and give hard working tax payers nitpicking tickets for minor traffic violations. Some of them have nothing better to do than mess with people, so I understand the frustration with most civilians towards them, but for me, I am not going to get killed or put in a coma trying to fight or resist some jackass with a badge just because he has a wild hair up his arse.. now If i absolutely feel my life is on the line with one of these guys. Then all bets are off and I really can't tell you what I would do..... anything short of that, I am dealing with that in court...

absolutely i agree w/u 100%... i ain't gonna be getting into no physical altercations w/no cops regardless of the circumstances or how they're disrespecting me... i'm not looking to land in no jail cell after getting a beatdown from the cops & having it a my word against theirs scenario... ain't no way i'm winning that one in court... but it's a sad state of affairs when even verbal exchanges between yourself & a cop could potentially result in you being arrested under some lame charges of disorderly conduct or the like... this is what i mean by abuse of power... just cuz it happens doesn't make it right obviously.

Posted by ramtour420:

Ok, same scenario but in Moscow:

Nalod gets pulled over, its a male cop (no females work as cops). Cop ask for license and registration, Nalod gives it to him. Cop says"Oh its expired. And is that marijuana i smell in the car? Should we perform an official car search or what? Nalod says" Maybe we can just take care of this a different way?" Cop says "Sure, that will be $100" Nalod says "I am so sorry, i only have a $50" Long, uncomfortable pause follows. The cop says "Ok, fine". Nalod gives him the money and they go separate ways. Exactly same scenario happens no matter what the offense was, Nalod could literally open his door and fall face first on the pavement piss drunk, same exact conversation, only thing different would be the amount of $.

Posted by codeunknown:

While difficult to draw hard conclusions from this one event, it is definitely useful as a preliminary gauge; the most appropriate initial hypothesis to draw here is that in a police encounter with potential racial bias, respect and demonstration of implicit trust in the motives of the law enforcement agent can gain one significant reprieve, even in a case of actual guilt. The correlate question is that, assuming (tentatively) that standard and reverse racial positions in police encounters have similar dynamics, would Gates have been left without incident had he politely explained himself? The larger questions are does protocol need to better defined to eliminate the subjectivity of police indiscretion, what level of anatagonistic interaction with police should be actionable and what generic profiling criteria are acceptable if statistics indicate safer communities?

Although it may be more difficult to respond with restraint for blacks who are accused (because of a context of injustice) as well as for those who haven't engaged in criminal behavior to begin with, Nalod's story may provide added incentive. From an intervention-results perspective, its certainly a pertinent anecdote to the Gates discussion. So not pointless, by a long shot.

dude, are u writing a paper?

Posted by TMS:

Posted by codeunknown:

While difficult to draw hard conclusions from this one event, it is definitely useful as a preliminary gauge; the most appropriate initial hypothesis to draw here is that in a police encounter with potential racial bias, respect and demonstration of implicit trust in the motives of the law enforcement agent can gain one significant reprieve, even in a case of actual guilt. The correlate question is that, assuming (tentatively) that standard and reverse racial positions in police encounters have similar dynamics, would Gates have been left without incident had he politely explained himself? The larger questions are does protocol need to better defined to eliminate the subjectivity of police indiscretion, what level of anatagonistic interaction with police should be actionable and what generic profiling criteria are acceptable if statistics indicate safer communities?

Although it may be more difficult to respond with restraint for blacks who are accused (because of a context of injustice) as well as for those who haven't engaged in criminal behavior to begin with, Nalod's story may provide added incentive. From an intervention-results perspective, its certainly a pertinent anecdote to the Gates discussion. So not pointless, by a long shot.

dude, are u writing a paper?

Having trouble reading it?