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Marv
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8/14/2009  4:12 PM
this is quite the coincidence. at our impromptu ultimateknicks.com get-together last night we also concluded that bip is not smart after all.
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8/14/2009  4:52 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by BasketballJones:

I thought Walsh said something about trucks and interns. But I could be wrong.

Walsh said that he is too old already for... trucks and iterns.

You're never too old for trucks and interns send closk man.
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8/14/2009  5:37 PM
Posted by Marv:

this is quite the coincidence. at our impromptu ultimateknicks.com get-together last night we also concluded that bip is not smart after all.

Are you sure they weren't talking about you? At your age hearing is the first thing to go
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Bippity10
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8/14/2009  5:38 PM
Nobody with an opposing view point ever seems to have the guts to answer Bip's questions
I just hope that people will like me
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8/14/2009  6:08 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by BasketballJones:

I thought Walsh said something about trucks and interns. But I could be wrong.

Walsh said that he is too old already for... trucks and iterns.

You're never too old for trucks and interns send closk man.

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Marv
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8/14/2009  6:14 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Marv:

this is quite the coincidence. at our impromptu ultimateknicks.com get-together last night we also concluded that bip is not smart after all.

Are you sure they weren't talking about you? At your age hearing is the first thing to go

what?
Bippity10
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8/15/2009  9:44 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Marv:

this is quite the coincidence. at our impromptu ultimateknicks.com get-together last night we also concluded that bip is not smart after all.

Are you sure they weren't talking about you? At your age hearing is the first thing to go

what?

Exactly
I just hope that people will like me
loweyecue
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8/15/2009  11:37 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Marv:

this is quite the coincidence. at our impromptu ultimateknicks.com get-together last night we also concluded that bip is not smart after all.

Are you sure they weren't talking about you? At your age hearing is the first thing to go

what?

Exactly

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loweyecue
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8/15/2009  11:39 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by knicks1248:

I'm really not complaining. I read an article I commented on it, I suggested that it would be in our best interest to make the playoffs, and hope our players get better and there values increase so we can possible make a trade or 2 to upgrade.. And all of a sudden I'm bitching, crying and complaining.

This maybe a discussion we had already but certain things are becoming painfully obvious. If you think walsh is following his initial plan then your not smart after all. A lot has change since his debut and I'm almost certain he didn't predict these obstacles.

"you are not smart after all"-This is all you have to validate your point. Good one.

Instead of throwing out 4th grade insults why not just discuss the topic. So you think things have changed. You think obstacles have come up. You and I agree on this brilliant in-depth analysis. You and I probably also agree that this is what happens when you build a team. If it was formulaic and things did not change then everyone would be able to build a championship team. Unfortunately things do change and fall apart from time to time, so you adapt. A good GM will have a back up plan so he is not completely starting over if his Plan A fails.

Walsh has said from the beginning he wants to go after a star. He has said that there are several ways to get one, but getting under the cap may be the quickest way(considering we don't have a draft pick in 2010 who can argue with this, getting under the cap gets us in position to make trades/sign free agents). Not sure if those are his exact words but I think I'm close. Now Donnie has never said that going after Lebron is his only plan. That is a media creation that is being followed by fans. He is going to get under the cap go after big time players and if he can't pull it off(the reasons for not pulling it off are irrelevant, doesn't matter if the the cap is lowered, or the player doesn't want to come here), what are we left with? We are left with a young team with tons of expiring contracts.

What else has become painfully obvious? Maybe you just aren't expressing yourself clearly and that's why people think you are complaining.


This is exactly why I would give Walsh an "A" -- what he has done is the right thing to do, low risk with "potential" fro high reward. Even if you dont get the high reward it's still the right thing to do.
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8/15/2009  11:41 AM
These are the main arguments against Walsh
1.) We passed up on future stars for 2 horrible picks(even though one hasn't played and the other was injured last year)
2.) We have no chance to get Lebron so let's compete for a title by going after Sessions, Villanueva, Hedo Turkoglu, Lamar Odom
3.) We are bringing in old washed up guys(even though none have been signed so who cares)
4.) We haven't signed Lee or Nate(even though no one seems to want them at the salaries they are looking for)
5.) We are mortgaging our future for Lebron (even though if we don't get Lebron we still have our #6, #8, #23, #29 and possibly Lee and/or Nate on the roster along with expiring contracts and cap space.

All but the first are meaningless to me. And even the first is and "incomplete" decision at best. Lets see what these kids have before calling them "busts"
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For get about it !!!

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