Posted by nyk4ever:

I think the lineups sans LeBron are pretty similar - I will include Lee and not Nate.

What I do think you have to take account for is the fact that LeBron makes players better around him. I think Chandler and Gallo get the biggest boosts, same for Lee. I think Gallo would jump up a level or two if he were playing with LeBron, he would get so many easy and wide open jumpers, it wouldnt even be funny. I also think Gallos court vision would mesh nicely with LeBrons. Chandler/LeBron might clash but I think they would work it out offensively. I think Darko gets a nice bump. He's already a good shotblocker and rebounder, I think he even gets more easy baskets... same goes for Lee, he would get even more easy baskets.

I think the lineups are pretty similar and I do think LeBron would really take to this system and that these guys on the roster would be excellent to play MikeD's style WITH LeBron.

Posted by arkrud:

Daniel Gibson >> Chris Duhon
Shaquille O'Neal >>>>>> Eddy Curry
Zydrunas Ilgauskas >>>>>> Darko Milicic
Delonte West == Wilson Chandler
Jamario Moon == Jordan Hill
Mo Williams >>>>>> Nate Robinson
Anderson Varejao == David Lee
Jawad Williams >> Jared Jeffries
Daniel Green == Toney Douglas
Darnell Jackson == Chris Hunter
Anthony Parker == Larry Hughes
Hickson == Joe Crawford
LeBron James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danilo Gallinari, Al Harrington

[Edited by - arkrud on 08-11-2009 9:26 PM]

[Edited by - arkrud on 08-11-2009 9:30 PM]

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I think the lineups sans LeBron are pretty similar - I will include Lee and not Nate.

What I do think you have to take account for is the fact that LeBron makes players better around him. I think Chandler and Gallo get the biggest boosts, same for Lee. I think Gallo would jump up a level or two if he were playing with LeBron, he would get so many easy and wide open jumpers, it wouldnt even be funny. I also think Gallos court vision would mesh nicely with LeBrons. Chandler/LeBron might clash but I think they would work it out offensively. I think Darko gets a nice bump. He's already a good shotblocker and rebounder, I think he even gets more easy baskets... same goes for Lee, he would get even more easy baskets.

I think the lineups are pretty similar and I do think LeBron would really take to this system and that these guys on the roster would be excellent to play MikeD's style WITH LeBron.

what position does gallo play? what position will he defend in the post season?

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by arkrud:

Daniel Gibson >> Chris Duhon
Shaquille O'Neal >>>>>> Eddy Curry
Zydrunas Ilgauskas >>>>>> Darko Milicic
Delonte West == Wilson Chandler
Jamario Moon == Jordan Hill
Mo Williams >>>>>> Nate Robinson
Anderson Varejao == David Lee
Jawad Williams >> Jared Jeffries
Daniel Green == Toney Douglas
Darnell Jackson == Chris Hunter
Anthony Parker == Larry Hughes
Hickson == Joe Crawford
LeBron James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danilo Gallinari, Al Harrington

[Edited by - arkrud on 08-11-2009 9:26 PM]

[Edited by - arkrud on 08-11-2009 9:30 PM]

LOL at bolded.

And why are you including Lebron. The whole point is to see which supporting cast is better.

We have extra 2 players and they 3 roster spots.
We do have more players because they have LeBron

Posted by djsunyc:

btw seb, you would start duhon + nate in the backcourt? with ray allen, joe johnson, + vince carter in the postseason, who do they stop?

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by sebstar:

hmm...lets see, well for starters their second best option, Mo Williams, is almost exactly equivalent to Nate Robinson.

The Cavs big men are comprised of cats that are either over the hill - Wallace, immobile - Illgauskas, or marginally talented energy players - Verajao. Darko is better than all three.

I'll give them the nod at PG, Delonte knows what he's doin, but thats a slight nod. The Knicks have a way more talented squad and if we're dealing with hypotheticals at this point, I dont see how one couldnt surmise that Knicks would be better.

ok.

what would the knicks starting 5 look like and their rotation. the cavs are a half court defense first team. the knicks would have a much different look. who plays where?

PG Duhon < West
SG Nate = Mo
SF Bron = Bron
PF Lee >>>> Verajao
C Darko >> Illgaukaus

Would have to trade either Hughes, Chandler, or Harrington with Bron that would create a logjam. Probably Harrington --- we could probably get something good for him. Probably another big.

Our bench of Gallo, Hughes, Hill, Chandler, Curry would at its absolute worst be slightly as Joe Smith, Powe, Wallace, Sasha P, Wally z...but more than likely would crap all over the Cavs if they realize their potential.

you forgot shaq, anthony parker and jamario moon.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-11-2009 9:31 PM]

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by djsunyc:

btw seb, you would start duhon + nate in the backcourt? with ray allen, joe johnson, + vince carter in the postseason, who do they stop?

I'm not trying to be smart but right now Ray Allen and Vince for the most part are just jumpshooters.. joe johnson I'll give you though.

Posted by djsunyc:

btw seb, you would start duhon + nate in the backcourt? with ray allen, joe johnson, + vince carter in the postseason, who do they stop?

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I think the lineups sans LeBron are pretty similar - I will include Lee and not Nate.

What I do think you have to take account for is the fact that LeBron makes players better around him. I think Chandler and Gallo get the biggest boosts, same for Lee. I think Gallo would jump up a level or two if he were playing with LeBron, he would get so many easy and wide open jumpers, it wouldnt even be funny. I also think Gallos court vision would mesh nicely with LeBrons. Chandler/LeBron might clash but I think they would work it out offensively. I think Darko gets a nice bump. He's already a good shotblocker and rebounder, I think he even gets more easy baskets... same goes for Lee, he would get even more easy baskets.

I think the lineups are pretty similar and I do think LeBron would really take to this system and that these guys on the roster would be excellent to play MikeD's style WITH LeBron.

what position does gallo play? what position will he defend in the post season?

I think Gallo offensively plays the 2 and defensively plays the 3. His D last year wasn't THAT bad. His man/man D could use some work for sure, but he was playing at like 50% so I do think his lateral movement will improve a bit. I still think he gets beat defensively, but I don't think it'll be that bad.

who guards the opposing sg? the opposing pf?

or will the team just try to outscore everybody?

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by sebstar:

Damn, I dont know shyt about the cavs.

Alright then I'll substitute Shaq in at Center and give you the edge at that position. That makes the starting lineup virtually even, slightly leaning towards you guys, but remember Lee is way better than Varejao so who knows.

Our bench is what kills...we'd have crazy firepower comin off the bench. Cavs are just ok.

ok...but will the team have that depth if they have to dump alot of players to get lebron?

i'm asking these questions b/c the sentiment around here is that it's a given that the knicks have a better roster than the cavs.

imho, i think alot of the roster will have to change and that will take 2-3 years after the lebron signing. nothing wrong with that but just trying to counter the initial sentiment.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by sebstar:

Damn, I dont know shyt about the cavs.

Alright then I'll substitute Shaq in at Center and give you the edge at that position. That makes the starting lineup virtually even, slightly leaning towards you guys, but remember Lee is way better than Varejao so who knows.

Our bench is what kills...we'd have crazy firepower comin off the bench. Cavs are just ok.

ok...but will the team have that depth if they have to dump alot of players to get lebron?

i'm asking these questions b/c the sentiment around here is that it's a given that the knicks have a better roster than the cavs.

imho, i think alot of the roster will have to change and that will take 2-3 years after the lebron signing. nothing wrong with that but just trying to counter the initial sentiment.