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8/3/2009  5:30 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

WHITE PRIVILEGE IN THIS COUNTRY, SEBSTAR? IT'S CALLED HARD WORK, AND BUILDING IT FROM THE GROUND UP. IT'S CALLED TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

THE ONLY "PRIVILEGE" WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IS THEIR OWN HARD WORK THAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY AND BUILT THE WORLD.

Im convinced you're a previously banned poster and you're just having fun with me and the rest of the board ( Playa is this you, bruh?) I mean, who in their right mind would have defended those cops in that video that showed them beating the hell out of that little girl, not to mention all the crazy ass things you continue to say?

But then again, when you look at the popularity of Fox news and conservative radio then one would have to assume that a few of your ilk would eventually migrate to this board. Perhaps it was invitable.

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8/3/2009  5:30 PM
So now that the country is built, what's next, ethnic cleansing?
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8/3/2009  5:41 PM
and btw- thanks for the american history lesson. Now perhaps you guys can give me a history lesson on human rights in China, Japan, Korea, Africa, Russia, Germany, France, Iran, Iraq, India, Saudi Arabia, the former British Empire, the Roman Empire, the Greek empire etc.......

When talking about American History, here's a good place to start:

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

[Edited by - rookie on 08-03-2009 5:50 PM]
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8/3/2009  5:54 PM
Posted by Rookie:

and btw- thanks for the american history lesson. Now perhaps you guys can give me a history lesson on human rights in China, Japan, Korea, Africa, Russia, Iran, Iraq, India, Saudi Arabia, the former British Empire, the Roman Empire, the Greek empire etc.......

Why are you interested in moving to any of these places? You need any help? I'll be happy to provide.

But I know that you're attempting to divert attention from topic at hand and keep this thread from completely backfiring by creating some sort of equivalency between America's treatment of minorities and human rights violations all across the world.


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8/3/2009  5:56 PM
LOL at your last post Rookie. Do you know how ironic it is that you post that, when you in fact support the unconsitutional treatment of minorities through methods of racial profiling and the like?
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8/3/2009  6:05 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

WHITE PRIVILEGE IN THIS COUNTRY, SEBSTAR? IT'S CALLED HARD WORK, AND BUILDING IT FROM THE GROUND UP. IT'S CALLED TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

THE ONLY "PRIVILEGE" WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IS THEIR OWN HARD WORK THAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY AND BUILT THE WORLD.

YOU'RE THE BIGGEST RACIST HERE. AND YOU'RE IGNORANT AS THE SILLIEST PRE-K STUDENT.

quit making me and the other white dudes look bad. I guess you know better than Warren Buffett.
Buffett said his defining moment came at birth when he was born a white male in America. By the luck of that draw, he said, he was afforded opportunities billions of other people were not.

http://blog.nola.com/tpmoney/2008/10/warren_buffett_shares_life_les.html

Your heritage isn't the only variable in determining the course of your future. But to disregard the inherent advantages that you're afforded because of your race and gender identity is nothing short of egomania.

I'm unapologetic for my advantage(s). I'm no different than anyone else. I'm second generation American and have no old money so there are others with greater advantage(s). But that doesn't mean I started on par with everyone else.

The indigenous were killed when it became inconvenient to share resources and weren't considered residents until the mid 1800s. White indentured servants were severely punished for sympathizing with black slaves. Black slave families were broken to let slave productivity flourish. Asians built the rail infrastructure with little to no regard for their lives. Mexicans were slaughtered and their economy destroyed when it came time to acquire more land, as were Filipinos, and Cubans too to ensure economic footing.

Were there some whites that got shat on when the upper-class whites advanced? Yes, but as society evolved a certain pecking order was established. I know you want to believe everything you have was you--YOU ARE SO GREAT BLOBMAN!--but there is something called an externality. But I suppose you control the laws of economics too
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8/3/2009  6:06 PM
you need to expand your point of view. Have you ever lived outside of the United States, outside of the inner city, or studied History? If you want to live in a perfect world, then why don't you try and do something to change it instead of wasting your time on message boards?
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8/3/2009  6:07 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by orangeblobman:

WHITE PRIVILEGE IN THIS COUNTRY, SEBSTAR? IT'S CALLED HARD WORK, AND BUILDING IT FROM THE GROUND UP. IT'S CALLED TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

THE ONLY "PRIVILEGE" WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IS THEIR OWN HARD WORK THAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY AND BUILT THE WORLD.

YOU'RE THE BIGGEST RACIST HERE. AND YOU'RE IGNORANT AS THE SILLIEST PRE-K STUDENT.

quit making me and the other white dudes look bad. I guess you know better than Warren Buffett.
Buffett said his defining moment came at birth when he was born a white male in America. By the luck of that draw, he said, he was afforded opportunities billions of other people were not.

http://blog.nola.com/tpmoney/2008/10/warren_buffett_shares_life_les.html

Your heritage isn't the only variable in determining the course of your future. But to disregard the inherent advantages that you're afforded because of your race and gender identity is nothing short of egomania.

I'm unapologetic for my advantage(s). I'm no different than anyone else. I'm second generation American and have no old money so there are others with greater advantage(s). But that doesn't mean I started on par with everyone else.

The indigenous were killed when it became inconvenient to share resources and weren't considered residents until the mid 1800s. White indentured servants were severely punished for sympathizing with black slaves. Black slave families were broken to let slave productivity flourish. Asians built the rail infrastructure with little to no regard for their lives. Mexicans were slaughtered and their economy destroyed when it came time to acquire more land, as were Filipinos, and Cubans too to ensure economic footing.

Were there some whites that got shat on when the upper-class whites advanced? Yes, but as society evolved a certain pecking order was established. I know you want to believe everything you have was you--YOU ARE SO GREAT BLOBMAN!--but there is something called an externality. But I suppose you control the laws of economics too

Good Post Supreme Commander very much spot on
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8/3/2009  6:09 PM
All great wealth created in history has a crime attached to it. Conquests, Colonialization, and just plain old war.

The Pharoahs used Jews as slaves, The Nazi's used jews and others to keep their war effort going thru enslaved labor. The great wall of china, pyramids, the Soviet Infrastructure, the industrial revolution, the british empire, the ottoman empire, the roman empire, tribal wars in africa, diamond mines, french colonialization, Spanish colonies, American agriculture, Irish immigrants, Chinese immegrants, Latin American and oil profits in the middle east.

Here in the US you have immigrants, And within those cultural gettos you had subcultures like the mafia or today gang economics in the black, latino and asian communities taking advantage of one another INSIDE THOSE COMMUNITIES!

Racisim, warfare, enslavement, descrimination, etc are all part of every economic advancement in all socialism, capitalism and communism. Dictatorships, Tsars, and kingdoms all fed off the backs of their people. Some more than others. Racism is ancient.

Except for continental europe upper class just about every other class has somthing to bitch about and say there race was taken advantage of. The sterotypical Irish cop can point to his being starved out of Ireland and if his famlily was cops as it was the way to respectability in this country. Corrupt cops come in all colors and race so they once in power put the sqeeze unto others. Italian cops, Jewish cops, etc.....They had children and put them into school, and they had children and they went to college.............Shop keepers, laborers, and agroculture all did the same.

I think most of us can get in the line and say they have been effected by history.

We all got scars. ANyone want to imagine what losing half your family to genecide? I got some great aunts and uncles that lost loved ones. Thats family names, lineage, art, music, women, children, science, writing, etc all taken from them, and eleminated from the rest of us. Is one life more important than another? Is a great man, his lifes work, his families life work and their children just stolen from the face of the earth and the spoils if any just looted. Those Phuching Nazis put a hurt on many people not just jews.

So what is white america really? Maybe thats why there is little sympathy for histories cuz there is plenty of history to all go around. That privileged white america might exist for the power brokers who themselves commited some crime (Bush family was build of Nazi profits). But for the majority was all just out there and perhaps its best to say that if each generation does better then we promote our own races. That "White" aristocrat is very small in number. Is white america a Jew? Asian? Italian? Irish? and others also? We all got some chips on our shoulders.

The nasty cycle that Sebby talks about is big one and its real. Is it promoted by some master plan to keep going? Dysfuntion of the urban black family units? I don't know about that nor how to fix it. Trust to say IF it gets fixed by the Irish man, the Italian man, The Asian Man, the Latino man, the Scottish man, the Indian Man, etc when there is a profit involved or in its self interest. Thats how its done when its done by others. when its done by similar minded people its called charity.

Morality can keep things going to some degree, but to elevate a generation takes time, money, and self esteem.

Maybe it is happening and in time in another lifetime can look back and see real progress.

A half black man in the white house is a hell of thing and in the right direction. Its not enough, but a step in the right direction. He is a good man and the best choice. Things have progressed enough that he had a opportunity to demonstrate his qualities. Thats freaking huge! Should be the just the tenants of decency but its not.

Got a jew president yet? Nope. Got an Italian President yet? Nope? Asian president yet? Nope! Its coming. I guess a Latin American president gonna happen sooner. It won't be novel, its cuz he a good man.

Racism exists and its morally wrong any way you look at it. It exists everywhere on the planet there are mixed ethnics living together or near one another.
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8/3/2009  6:11 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by orangeblobman:

WHITE PRIVILEGE IN THIS COUNTRY, SEBSTAR? IT'S CALLED HARD WORK, AND BUILDING IT FROM THE GROUND UP. IT'S CALLED TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

THE ONLY "PRIVILEGE" WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IS THEIR OWN HARD WORK THAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY AND BUILT THE WORLD.

Im convinced you're a previously banned poster and you're just having fun with me and the rest of the board ( Playa is this you, bruh?) I mean, who in their right mind would have defended those cops in that video that showed them beating the hell out of that little girl, not to mention all the crazy ass things you continue to say?

But then again, when you look at the popularity of Fox news and conservative radio then one would have to assume that a few of your ilk would eventually migrate to this board. Perhaps it was invitable.

I personally think he's a 15 year old who spends too much time in front of the television and internet.
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8/3/2009  6:23 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by orangeblobman:

WHITE PRIVILEGE IN THIS COUNTRY, SEBSTAR? IT'S CALLED HARD WORK, AND BUILDING IT FROM THE GROUND UP. IT'S CALLED TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

THE ONLY "PRIVILEGE" WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IS THEIR OWN HARD WORK THAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY AND BUILT THE WORLD.

YOU'RE THE BIGGEST RACIST HERE. AND YOU'RE IGNORANT AS THE SILLIEST PRE-K STUDENT.

quit making me and the other white dudes look bad. I guess you know better than Warren Buffett.
Buffett said his defining moment came at birth when he was born a white male in America. By the luck of that draw, he said, he was afforded opportunities billions of other people were not.

http://blog.nola.com/tpmoney/2008/10/warren_buffett_shares_life_les.html

Your heritage isn't the only variable in determining the course of your future. But to disregard the inherent advantages that you're afforded because of your race and gender identity is nothing short of egomania.

I'm unapologetic for my advantage(s). I'm no different than anyone else. I'm second generation American and have no old money so there are others with greater advantage(s). But that doesn't mean I started on par with everyone else.

The indigenous were killed when it became inconvenient to share resources and weren't considered residents until the mid 1800s. White indentured servants were severely punished for sympathizing with black slaves. Black slave families were broken to let slave productivity flourish. Asians built the rail infrastructure with little to no regard for their lives. Mexicans were slaughtered and their economy destroyed when it came time to acquire more land, as were Filipinos, and Cubans too to ensure economic footing.

Were there some whites that got shat on when the upper-class whites advanced? Yes, but as society evolved a certain pecking order was established. I know you want to believe everything you have was you--YOU ARE SO GREAT BLOBMAN!--but there is something called an externality. But I suppose you control the laws of economics too

Why not take it a step further. It was beneficial to be born a W.A.S.P. You guys should read - The Rise and Fall of the British Empire by Lawrence James. It sounds like you guys are describing 'benevolent imperialism' which was Great Britain's thing. Sebstar, look it up.




[Edited by - rookie on 08-03-2009 6:24 PM]
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8/3/2009  6:38 PM
Posted by Rookie:

you need to expand your point of view. Have you ever lived outside of the United States, outside of the inner city, or studied History? If you want to live in a perfect world, then why don't you try and do something to change it instead of wasting your time on message boards?

I dont need to expand jack. And why would you assume that I haven't done anything other than post on message boards?

You would be better of just being honest and saying that you dont really give a rats ass about racism. At least the people that dont steer clear of threads like these and dont submerge them with pointless comments and non-sequiturs. If anything you present a very passive-aggressive posture towards the plights that minorities face

Its really transparent how you're trying to shame me and other minorities into not acknowledging racism by trying to minimize our communities hardships and the treatment we receive, by somehow envoking atrocities around the world. You dont care about me and I sure as hell dont give a damn about you. Lets just be real.
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Thank you Nalod, you are obviously a student of History

Posted by Nalod:

All great wealth created in history has a crime attached to it. Conquests, Colonialization, and just plain old war.

The Pharoahs used Jews as slaves, The Nazi's used jews and others to keep their war effort going thru enslaved labor. The great wall of china, pyramids, the Soviet Infrastructure, the industrial revolution, the british empire, the ottoman empire, the roman empire, tribal wars in africa, diamond mines, french colonialization, Spanish colonies, American agriculture, Irish immigrants, Chinese immegrants, Latin American and oil profits in the middle east.

Here in the US you have immigrants, And within those cultural gettos you had subcultures like the mafia or today gang economics in the black, latino and asian communities taking advantage of one another INSIDE THOSE COMMUNITIES!

Racisim, warfare, enslavement, descrimination, etc are all part of every economic advancement in all socialism, capitalism and communism. Dictatorships, Tsars, and kingdoms all fed off the backs of their people. Some more than others. Racism is ancient.

Except for continental europe upper class just about every other class has somthing to bitch about and say there race was taken advantage of. The sterotypical Irish cop can point to his being starved out of Ireland and if his famlily was cops as it was the way to respectability in this country. Corrupt cops come in all colors and race so they once in power put the sqeeze unto others. Italian cops, Jewish cops, etc.....They had children and put them into school, and they had children and they went to college.............Shop keepers, laborers, and agroculture all did the same.

I think most of us can get in the line and say they have been effected by history.

We all got scars. ANyone want to imagine what losing half your family to genecide? I got some great aunts and uncles that lost loved ones. Thats family names, lineage, art, music, women, children, science, writing, etc all taken from them, and eleminated from the rest of us. Is one life more important than another? Is a great man, his lifes work, his families life work and their children just stolen from the face of the earth and the spoils if any just looted. Those Phuching Nazis put a hurt on many people not just jews.

So what is white america really? Maybe thats why there is little sympathy for histories cuz there is plenty of history to all go around. That privileged white america might exist for the power brokers who themselves commited some crime (Bush family was build of Nazi profits). But for the majority was all just out there and perhaps its best to say that if each generation does better then we promote our own races. That "White" aristocrat is very small in number. Is white america a Jew? Asian? Italian? Irish? and others also? We all got some chips on our shoulders.

The nasty cycle that Sebby talks about is big one and its real. Is it promoted by some master plan to keep going? Dysfuntion of the urban black family units? I don't know about that nor how to fix it. Trust to say IF it gets fixed by the Irish man, the Italian man, The Asian Man, the Latino man, the Scottish man, the Indian Man, etc when there is a profit involved or in its self interest. Thats how its done when its done by others. when its done by similar minded people its called charity.

Morality can keep things going to some degree, but to elevate a generation takes time, money, and self esteem.

Maybe it is happening and in time in another lifetime can look back and see real progress.

A half black man in the white house is a hell of thing and in the right direction. Its not enough, but a step in the right direction. He is a good man and the best choice. Things have progressed enough that he had a opportunity to demonstrate his qualities. Thats freaking huge! Should be the just the tenants of decency but its not.

Got a jew president yet? Nope. Got an Italian President yet? Nope? Asian president yet? Nope! Its coming. I guess a Latin American president gonna happen sooner. It won't be novel, its cuz he a good man.

Racism exists and its morally wrong any way you look at it. It exists everywhere on the planet there are mixed ethnics living together or near one another.

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8/3/2009  6:42 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by Rookie:

you need to expand your point of view. Have you ever lived outside of the United States, outside of the inner city, or studied History? If you want to live in a perfect world, then why don't you try and do something to change it instead of wasting your time on message boards?

I dont need to expand jack. And why would you assume that I haven't done anything other than post on message boards?

You would be better of just being honest and saying that you dont really give a rats ass about racism. At least the people that dont steer clear of threads like these and dont submerge them with pointless comments and non-sequiturs. If anything you present a very passive-aggressive posture towards the plights that minorities face

Its really transparent how you're trying to shame me and other minorities into not acknowledging racism by trying to minimize our communities hardships and the treatment we receive, by somehow envoking atrocities around the world. You dont care about me and I sure as hell dont give a damn about you. Lets just be real.

Wrong, I just don't think that blacks have the monopoly on hardship
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Posted by sebstar:
Posted by orangeblobman:

WHITE PRIVILEGE IN THIS COUNTRY, SEBSTAR? IT'S CALLED HARD WORK, AND BUILDING IT FROM THE GROUND UP. IT'S CALLED TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

THE ONLY "PRIVILEGE" WHITE PEOPLE HAVE IS THEIR OWN HARD WORK THAT BUILT THIS COUNTRY AND BUILT THE WORLD.

Im convinced you're a previously banned poster and you're just having fun with me and the rest of the board ( Playa is this you, bruh?) I mean, who in their right mind would have defended those cops in that video that showed them beating the hell out of that little girl, not to mention all the crazy ass things you continue to say?

But then again, when you look at the popularity of Fox news and conservative radio then one would have to assume that a few of your ilk would eventually migrate to this board. Perhaps it was invitable.

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8/3/2009  8:00 PM
Sebstar, and everyone else that thinks I'm crazy, you should really take a deep long look into the mirror.

If you play the 'opressor - opressee' game your whole life, your whole life will be suffering and never-ending mental disorder. If you let your mind become free and search for Truth, then you can Live.

See if you're honest with yourselves.
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knowledge of the sacrifices they have made, of the undaunted efforts they have put forth, of
the faith they have exercised, that they might overcome the apparently insurmountable, and
realize the Vision of their heart. They do not know the darkness and the heartaches; they only
see the light and joy, and call it "luck". They do not see the long and arduous journey, but only
behold the pleasant goal, and call it "good fortune," do not understand the process, but only
perceive the result, and call it "chance."




[Edited by - orangeblobman on 08-03-2009 8:38 PM]
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8/3/2009  8:39 PM
some of us are simply commenting on the level of ignorance you are displaying on this thread w/ur comments... not all of us are playing the "we are an oppressed people" game here... but you're a fool if you really truly buy into that "we are all a product of our own hard work" ideology that you seem to have bought into... in an ideal world, that may be the case... we are NOT living in an ideal world... racism guarantees that not everyone in this country is playing on an equal playing field, & not every one of us are lucky enough to be born into a position of advantage as some others.
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8/3/2009  8:43 PM
Posted by TMS:

some of us are simply commenting on the level of ignorance you are displaying on this thread w/ur comments... not all of us are playing the "we are an oppressed people" game here... but you're a fool if you really truly buy into that "we are all a product of our own hard work" ideology that you seem to have bought into... in an ideal world, that may be the case... we are NOT living in an ideal world... racism guarantees that not everyone in this country is playing on an equal playing field, & not every one of us are lucky enough to be born into a position of advantage as some others.

First, the joke is on 'some of you' because I am not the ignorant one. It's the opposite. So you are right when you say that you are simply commenting.

Second, I am a fool for 'buying' into the 'we are a product of our own hard work' IDEOLOGY?? Where do I begin with t his asinine statement?

Third, 'racism guaratees...'? What? Are you serious? It seems to me you spend an awful lot of time projecting your own weaknesses onto others and don't take enough responsibility for your own life. What a horrid life of suffering it must be to walk in your shoes.

Wow.
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8/3/2009  9:12 PM
Sebstar, the thought just occurred to me......You are profiling me.
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8/3/2009  9:45 PM
Posted by sebstar:

Yep another race-baiting thread and the same quasi-bigoted material from the usual suspects around here. Its funny, you guys are always the first to use phrases like "get over it" and "playing the race card", but its generally these angry white males that come across as racially obsessed. Confusing, since white males have benefitted so dramatically from race and experience such white privilege in this country, yet they are so angry. But oh, I forgot everything is fair because OJ got off.

Cats like Thelonius, Ike, and Sage have already debunked arrest rates between races and shown how skewed they can be. Prejudice is hardwired into our justice system which demonstrates itself in very obvious ways ( powder cocaine sentences vs. crack cocaine sentences). Keep unfairly arresting Black men and women. Those households become poverty stricken because one or both parents are in jail. Child grows up compromised and makes poor decisions and receives a poor education. Child becomes involved in the criminal justice system. Cycle continues.

But I wont just "put my head in the sand"; the dysfunction that exists in inner-city communities is very real and demands serious, thoughtful action. But the core foundation to the crime that exists in these communities is poverty and a sense of hopelessness. Thats why conservatives are engaging in an intellectually misleading debate, because racism is a core element to all of this which has quarantined many in the community and given them little opportunity to succeed.

But conservatives aren't really interested in addressing real solutions for beleaguered communities. They would rather sit back and laugh at a blatantly unfair system and then pass along white supremacist material that somehow suggests that Blacks and other minorities are stupid, inherently violent and that there is a criminal pathology that pulses within in our communities. Sad.

The dirty little secret to American society is that not everyone can succeed. There has to be an underclass to support the wealthy and keep the capitalistic system from being too top heavy. Blacks are the perfect candidates for that underclass, so they have made it virtually impossible for inner-city blacks to penetrate that glass ceiling.



[Edited by - sebstar on 08-03-2009 3:42 PM]


I guess anyone that doesnt buy into what you say is a racist white guy. Too bad Im Puertorican
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