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Sniffle...sniffle... early look towards the 2010 Draft
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tkf
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7/29/2009  12:38 PM
Posted by Ira:
Cole Aldrich: At 6'11 and a true center Cole is going be mentioned as a top 15 prospect all year. He sniffed at the NBA this summer but opted for another season at Kansas. The problem with Aldrich is he is simply big, he is not overly skilled or polished, and he is not the proven commodity that say Blake Griffin was this time last year. Aldrich needs a strong season at Kansas and to show that he has a skill set that not tied to being tall – improved footwork, a better offensive array and more fluidness to his game. Aldrich's name will be on the prospect lists, but his game does not translate well today, and improvement this year will go a long way toward proving if he can be a first round player. He is a guy to watch, he just may not be a guy taken in the first 15 picks.

Let me give you Aldrich's stat line. In 30 mpg, he scored 15 points, 11 boards and 2.7 blocks while shooting 60%. In one NCAA tournament game, he had 20 boards and 10 blocks. So what is it that he has to prove? He's already proven he can score, board and block. He's not a bad passer and he gets to the line a lot. He's already proven a lot. If he's able to improve over those numbers, he'll be a star. I would have much rather taken Aldrich than the guy we got with the eighth pick this season.

Aldridge is pretty slow, and guarding NBA power forward will be a problem. Look at when they played Arizona. Jordan Hill was blowing by him as if he was in cement shoes...

Vs Hill and Arizona. Cole" Brick shoes" Aldrich had 10 points and 4 boards.. Jordan Hill had 23/11/2 Hill ate his lunch... you can have Aldrich.. I will gladly take hill....
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7/29/2009  12:39 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Looking Towards 2010: There is going to be a lot of hype about the 2010 NBA Free Agent class, it's been building for the better part of 2 years and in the next six months, it's going to get sillier and sillier as teams make moves to get as much cap space as possible. The interesting part of next summer is that not only will 140 plus free agents be available for potentially the highest bidder, but the 2010 Draft class is going to be fairly impressive as well. Here are some of the names to watch for:

John Wall

Derrick Favors

Willie Warren

Patrick Patterson

Greg Monroe

Ed Davis

Al-Farouq Aminu

Gani Lawal

Solomon Alabi

Cole Aldrich

Amazing that Evan Turner was not listed here. He will probably be he most (none more so, anyway) complete and ready to contribute college player coming out. He can shoot, drive to the hoop, rebound, play D, and dish the ball. He is also a leader.

I would have taken him over Hill this year had he come out.
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tkf
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7/29/2009  12:40 PM
Posted by Paladin55:
Posted by Ira:
Cole Aldrich: At 6'11 and a true center Cole is going be mentioned as a top 15 prospect all year. He sniffed at the NBA this summer but opted for another season at Kansas. The problem with Aldrich is he is simply big, he is not overly skilled or polished, and he is not the proven commodity that say Blake Griffin was this time last year. Aldrich needs a strong season at Kansas and to show that he has a skill set that not tied to being tall – improved footwork, a better offensive array and more fluidness to his game. Aldrich's name will be on the prospect lists, but his game does not translate well today, and improvement this year will go a long way toward proving if he can be a first round player. He is a guy to watch, he just may not be a guy taken in the first 15 picks.

Let me give you Aldrich's stat line. In 30 mpg, he scored 15 points, 11 boards and 2.7 blocks while shooting 60%. In one NCAA tournament game, he had 20 boards and 10 blocks. So what is it that he has to prove? He's already proven he can score, board and block. He's not a bad passer and he gets to the line a lot. He's already proven a lot. If he's able to improve over those numbers, he'll be a star. I would have much rather taken Aldrich than the guy we got with the eighth pick this season.

Didn't Aldrich get destroyed by Hill in a game last year?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=283580012


LOL.. you beat me to it... In that game. Hill faked Aldrich out of his shoes, went baseline for a nasty dunk.. by time Hill was dunking the ball, Aldrich was still comming down off that fake... LOL!
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7/29/2009  12:53 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

TMS, Hill will be OK, but watching him flail helplessly against a monster in McGee... that was tough to watch.

Put it this way; if I was Hill's mom, I would have taken him off the court for fear that he would either get his pride or his skeletal structure irreparably damaged.

It is further magnified because losing this year will only give Utah a better pick, so if Hill is a raw project then that's tough to swallow. He's also older than most of the other prospects.

This team is just a mess at the moment. There's no getting around it. When they say they need Gallo and Chandler to come up huge, they aren't kidding.
and Tim Thomas dunked so hard in Anthony Randolph's face he cried and had to come out of the game. Which one do you want on your roster?

I am very happy with both our picks and think both will be good players for us. How good? Who knows.. way way way to early to make comparisons. I do think Chandler is next coming of Danny Granger and this year's step will be telling.


I am trying to figure out what game he was watching. Hill scored as many points directly on Mcgee as Mcgee did on hill. Skita was guarding Mcgee for a good part of the game. I don't get the overexaggerating to prove points, I mean most of us watched the games, it is not like he can pull something over our eyes.. I saw Mcgee start off 1-5 forcing shots. I also saw mcgee get taken to school twice by hill and looked completely helpless.. and this is a guy with 1 full year of NBA ball under his belt.... go figure...
TKF, Remember this is the game that I said I felt Hill could have had 30 points if the players around him like Chuck Morris and Crawford passed the ball. I think the reason why people did not noticed that Hill had a good game is because he was not dunking all over the place like Mcgee or blocking shots like Mcgee. Hill did many nice plays but never seemed to get the ball from his teammates. At the end of the day Hill still had 20 plus points.



[Edited by - BigC on 07-29-2009 12:55 PM]
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7/29/2009  1:05 PM
Hill will be fine. He plays hard and loves the game and is a good coachable kid.

He was in OK shape. He wasnt in midseason shape and thats fine. I have no problem with him resting. He wasnt fat. He just wasnt running the hills with Jerry Rice. Whoop de doo

Good calls on the Kansas game and the McGee points
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7/29/2009  1:13 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

TMS, Hill will be OK, but watching him flail helplessly against a monster in McGee... that was tough to watch.

Put it this way; if I was Hill's mom, I would have taken him off the court for fear that he would either get his pride or his skeletal structure irreparably damaged.

It is further magnified because losing this year will only give Utah a better pick, so if Hill is a raw project then that's tough to swallow. He's also older than most of the other prospects.

This team is just a mess at the moment. There's no getting around it. When they say they need Gallo and Chandler to come up huge, they aren't kidding.
and Tim Thomas dunked so hard in Anthony Randolph's face he cried and had to come out of the game. Which one do you want on your roster?

I am very happy with both our picks and think both will be good players for us. How good? Who knows.. way way way to early to make comparisons. I do think Chandler is next coming of Danny Granger and this year's step will be telling.


I am trying to figure out what game he was watching. Hill scored as many points directly on Mcgee as Mcgee did on hill. Skita was guarding Mcgee for a good part of the game. I don't get the overexaggerating to prove points, I mean most of us watched the games, it is not like he can pull something over our eyes.. I saw Mcgee start off 1-5 forcing shots. I also saw mcgee get taken to school twice by hill and looked completely helpless.. and this is a guy with 1 full year of NBA ball under his belt.... go figure...
TKF, Remember this is the game that I said I felt Hill could have had 30 points if the players around him like Chuck Morris and Crawford passed the ball. I think the reason why people did not noticed that Hill had a good game is because he was not dunking all over the place like Mcgee or blocking shots like Mcgee. Hill did many nice plays but never seemed to get the ball from his teammates. At the end of the day Hill still had 20 plus points.



[Edited by - BigC on 07-29-2009 12:55 PM]

yea, I remember that well Big C. Hill did have two dunks in that game, but he played Mcgee toe to toe when they guarded each other... But as you said. Chuck morris and Crawford were going nut, and crawford was running the point.. LOL..
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7/29/2009  1:19 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

TMS, Hill will be OK, but watching him flail helplessly against a monster in McGee... that was tough to watch.

Put it this way; if I was Hill's mom, I would have taken him off the court for fear that he would either get his pride or his skeletal structure irreparably damaged.

It is further magnified because losing this year will only give Utah a better pick, so if Hill is a raw project then that's tough to swallow. He's also older than most of the other prospects.

This team is just a mess at the moment. There's no getting around it. When they say they need Gallo and Chandler to come up huge, they aren't kidding.
and Tim Thomas dunked so hard in Anthony Randolph's face he cried and had to come out of the game. Which one do you want on your roster?

I am very happy with both our picks and think both will be good players for us. How good? Who knows.. way way way to early to make comparisons. I do think Chandler is next coming of Danny Granger and this year's step will be telling.


I am trying to figure out what game he was watching. Hill scored as many points directly on Mcgee as Mcgee did on hill. Skita was guarding Mcgee for a good part of the game. I don't get the overexaggerating to prove points, I mean most of us watched the games, it is not like he can pull something over our eyes.. I saw Mcgee start off 1-5 forcing shots. I also saw mcgee get taken to school twice by hill and looked completely helpless.. and this is a guy with 1 full year of NBA ball under his belt.... go figure...
TKF, Remember this is the game that I said I felt Hill could have had 30 points if the players around him like Chuck Morris and Crawford passed the ball. I think the reason why people did not noticed that Hill had a good game is because he was not dunking all over the place like Mcgee or blocking shots like Mcgee. Hill did many nice plays but never seemed to get the ball from his teammates. At the end of the day Hill still had 20 plus points.



[Edited by - BigC on 07-29-2009 12:55 PM]

yea, I remember that well Big C. Hill did have two dunks in that game, but he played Mcgee toe to toe when they guarded each other... But as you said. Chuck morris and Crawford were going nut, and crawford was running the point.. LOL..

SL was a SG tryout, I don't see how any significant conclusions from the other positions can be drawn from that
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7/29/2009  1:22 PM
Yep, woulda been nice to get a top pick in the 2010 draft... oh well...
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7/29/2009  2:28 PM
After mcgee scored about 15 points in the first 6 minutes of the game the coaches pulled him for Skita. Hill had his 6Th foul in that game midway thru the 3rd which to me was impossible considering he never challenged one shot. The footage is still on this site somewhere.
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Sniffle...sniffle... early look towards the 2010 Draft

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