Posted by TMS:

Posted by GodSaveTheKnicks:

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by knicks1248:

More and more I'm starting to think walsh/MDA are not going to take this franchise to elite status..

The fact that we drafted an average PF when we desperately needed a floor general in the last 2 drafts is quite silly in way. Hill looks like a more athletic LEE and douglas is less of an athlete then NATE..n a little better defender . Your still paper thin at the 2g and your pg wouldn't be able to convince anyone of value to re-up with NYK... and why should they, he's a back up..

We had probably the worst summer league team assemble, and MDAs brother sucks all around as a coach..why didn't herb coach the team..after going 5-0 last summer.

Why should we feel confident in these two just cause they gave us a little cap flex..yet can't seem to do anything else right...after really digesting what both of these guys had to say during summer league games..they have plan A and only plan A..There's just no way you could feel confident that we will take a major step out of mediocrity anytime soon.

tell me again how after taking over a 23 win team that one year later you can make that judgement. Its just silly (for lack of something more insulting).

What Walsh has done is take what he thought were the best players available in 2 drafts, dump the toxic contracts that would prevent us from signing a FA agent in 2010 and hire a coach with a clear track of winning who is respected by elite NBA players.

The Knicks had nothing, NOTHING going for them when Walsh took over. They had years of cap hell and massive contracts associated with players nobody wanted in Curry, Crawford, Zach, Marbury and Jefferies. Now half of those are gone and we are actually in a position to sign a star player next offseason. Will we? Odds say no but the chance is there. At the very worst we will have a team filled of young players who are well coached and putting up good numbers with reasonable contracts playing for a team thats on its way back from being totally irrelevant.

What this franchise needs is someone with a plan and some time to execute it. Walsh has a plan. He's showing that. NY fans will never be patient. Doesnt matter so long as ownership is. Walsh deserves no less that 3 or 4 years to clean up this mess. No less

I think there are many of us in the patient camp on this board no? Two counting yourself and myself...

u can add me to that list

I am in there with you, too. This plan's got some legs. I trust DW to bitch slap Jimmy D. if that uppity rich boy starts meddling.

I like what I am seeing so far. Next summer will be a big test of the plan. I will give it at least that long, and probably another year to see what happens in 2011 summer. This ship ain't sinking any longer (i.e., Zeke the failure is gone, Marbury the cancer is gone, bad contracts are dropping away, DW not gonna let us founder in the breze) and it looks to be heading into port to restock talent. We won't be in the playoffs too soon, but I would rather miss that and end up with a team that contends for a bunch of years afterward.

Posted by knicks1248:

Patience...don't make me laugh..we have been patient for 30 years..regime after regime keeps falling short, now I'm suppose to be like ..ok were on the right track..I'm sorry I'm not convince, by any stretch..you guys are sipping that 2K10 juice hard..

Exactly what did Walsh do in Indi that gives him a pass, and you can't find a person on this planet that doesn't agree mike d doesn't stress defense..

You want me to sit here and believe that's all going to change in a year or two..We went from the finals to the lottery in 2 seasons, that didn't gradually happen, one bad move and it all came crumbling down fast..now 8 years into laughing stock status and we should be patient..The knicks are trying to sell a maybach that needs a paint job, tires, and navi system, to a person that has a date next week.Cool car and I know it would look great once I fix it up, but sorry I don't have that kinda time on my hands...

Posted by knicks1248:

Patience...don't make me laugh..we have been patient for 30 years..regime after regime keeps falling short, now I'm suppose to be like ..ok were on the right track..I'm sorry I'm not convince, by any stretch..you guys are sipping that 2K10 juice hard..

Exactly what did Walsh do in Indi that gives him a pass, and you can't find a person on this planet that doesn't agree mike d doesn't stress defense..

You want me to sit here and believe that's all going to change in a year or two..We went from the finals to the lottery in 2 seasons, that didn't gradually happen, one bad move and it all came crumbling down fast..now 8 years into laughing stock status and we should be patient..The knicks are trying to sell a maybach that needs a paint job, tires, and navi system, to a person that has a date next week.Cool car and I know it would look great once I fix it up, but sorry I don't have that kinda time on my hands...

Posted by kam77:

It's hard to see with so many around. You know I don't like being stuck in a crowd.

And the streets don't change but maybe the name. I ain't got time for the game.

Posted by knicks1248:

This way that walsh deals with contracts are ridiculous, and totally dragged out..I'm not saying jump at the first offer, but it certainly isn't going to attract FA..with the CBA,the Cap, and our current roster. We need to make a huge step this year..clearly you saw that some players want $ and some want security and rings, considering the fact that all of the up incoming FA (the elite ones) are all on current playoff teams...what the hell is the incentive to come to NYK..someone tell me that please.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TMS:


you'd rather we went after every bloated contract castoff veteran hasbeen star or overpaid underachieving player from other teams by using up all our assets & try fooling ourselves into thinking these guys will lead us to the promised land in a year or 2?

Larry Hughes

Posted by TMS:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TMS:


you'd rather we went after every bloated contract castoff veteran hasbeen star or overpaid underachieving player from other teams by using up all our assets & try fooling ourselves into thinking these guys will lead us to the promised land in a year or 2?

Larry Hughes

expiring contract

Posted by martin:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TMS:


you'd rather we went after every bloated contract castoff veteran hasbeen star or overpaid underachieving player from other teams by using up all our assets & try fooling ourselves into thinking these guys will lead us to the promised land in a year or 2?

Larry Hughes

expiring contract

McK1, are you seeing what I am saying about just throwing stuff out there and seeing if it sticks?

Are you really bemoaning the Larry Hughes for TT, Big Game and Roberson trade? Really? Especially when the Knicks were short-handed in the guard rotation?

Posted by McK1:

Posted by martin:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TMS:


you'd rather we went after every bloated contract castoff veteran hasbeen star or overpaid underachieving player from other teams by using up all our assets & try fooling ourselves into thinking these guys will lead us to the promised land in a year or 2?

Larry Hughes

expiring contract

McK1, are you seeing what I am saying about just throwing stuff out there and seeing if it sticks?

Are you really bemoaning the Larry Hughes for TT, Big Game and Roberson trade? Really? Especially when the Knicks were short-handed in the guard rotation?

If Isiah would've made that trade without getting a pick back he would have gotten killed here