Posted by TheGame:

Guys. Hill has enough talent that if he works his azz off, he can be a solid player. He has a decent jumpshot for a rookie PF, he has good hops and can move laterally. He is willing to fight for rebounds and can make a tough shot. He needs about 20 pounds of muscle, about 300-400 shots a day for the rest of the summer, and some serious work with a good big man coach. I predict by next summer Hill will be dominating SL competition no doubt. I think at worst, he is a slightly better Chris Wilcox. At best, he could be a Rasheed Wallace-like player (hopefully without the craziness). It all depends on how much work he puts in. No one can predict what this kid is going to be 2-3 years from now, so stop going crazy about SL.

Posted by Bippity10:

1.) 3 coaches at Arizona and yet he still went from a "who is that scrub" to a star in three years. Now he's going to get coaching. Why would his development stop?

2.) Back to the basket in college, but played a lot on the perimeter in the SL. Obviously they are working to develop a different part of his game. This will take time

3.) He admitted to being out of shape when summer league started. Good sign that his numbers got better as the SL went along.

4.) I don't like how he got beat down court on the break several times. For rookies this is not a horrendous thing, it happens. But for a rookie on the Knicks it could be a horrible thing because no one is going to teach him

5.) It was understood that he was a project that has work to do. So with that in mind, were his numbers concerning? Why?

6.) To me, Jordan was not great in the summer league, but as Earl says, who cares. It's freaking summer league. Last year, guys wanted to have sex with Bayless aftger summer league, but how did his rookie year turn out? Summer league is just a chance for free agents to prove themselves, for rookies to get a chance to get used to NBA speed before camp, and for 2nd year players to see how their summer work is progressing. None of it really means anything except that the players need more work

7.) I think Jordan will be "nothing but a hustle player" to start his career, but he showed me enough during summer league to think that in time he will develop offensive skills. Why people are jumping off a bridge is beyond me.

Posted by MS:

I wasn't very impressed with him. His defense is awful, lost his man almost every trip down the floor. He is raw, but shouldn't be that raw. I don't really see big things out of the guy. Maybe the talent level is a lot higher on other teams, but Javaal was really handing it to him.

Posted by MS:

I wasn't very impressed with him. His defense is awful, lost his man almost every trip down the floor. He is raw, but shouldn't be that raw. I don't really see big things out of the guy. Maybe the talent level is a lot higher on other teams, but Javaal was really handing it to him.

Posted by MS:

I wasn't very impressed with him. His defense is awful, lost his man almost every trip down the floor. He is raw, but shouldn't be that raw. I don't really see big things out of the guy. Maybe the talent level is a lot higher on other teams, but Javaal was really handing it to him.

Posted by ItalianStallion:

At the very best, Hill's ceiling is probably "average starting PF" or a tad better. The Knicks did not need a backup PF or even an average starting PF. They already have one that is slighlty above average in Lee. About the only way this pick makes any sense is if Hill can somehow give Lee his mid range game (which is not good, but it's better than Lee's). Since that's impossible, IMO we wasted the 8th pick.

Posted by kam77:

Other than Douglas, did you see any guards look for Hill regularly? Most of Hill's points were on quick flashes to the hoop where he was wide open, or on offensive putbacks. Other times i saw Hill literally calling for the ball so he could display his outside jumper. Once again, Hill making his own offense.

If he played with a couple more guys who understood the team concept of feeding the post, you would've seen more scoring out of Hill. What Hill really needs to work on is his man defense. Yes he is energetic on defense, but that is not the same as being a good man defender.

He's young and skinny. I hope he grows and learns to put his body on people. He seems to lay back on defense and rely on his ability to anticipate and react for the quick deflection. He needs to become more aggressive and develop a defensive mentality where he bodies up against players and muscles them to another spot on the floor.

Right now, he's a bit of a string bean.

Posted by misterearl:

Panic Room

(the names have been omitted to protect the innocent)

Jordan Hill is a little better than Ronnie Turiaf. He is very raw offensively and has no feel for the game which will kill him once the season starts

I hated the pick from day one and he hasnt shown me a gawddamn thing to change my mind. Does anybody have any confidence in this cat? I mean, he cant even compete in the summer league for flucks sake.

He really looks lost and unsure of himself.

He cant finish inside and he cant shoot he will get 8 points 6 boards.

he won't be able to body up players like turiaf as he looks to have the strength of dakota fanning.

Let the record show I think Hill will suck.

I've also gone on record with the same sentiments. Dude does look seriously lost.

But..I'm trying this new positivity thing out. Hopefully with some coaching the kid develops in the league like he developed in college.

Once he gets over his whole "holy crap I'm a millionaire and I'm in Vegas" thing, hopefully he gets into shape. The whole being out of shape thing is deeply disturbing since he is a professional athlete.

I hope NYC doesn't eat him alive. I think many of us on UK can only imagine what WE would have done with fame, millions, and youth in this fine city of ours (have you SEEN the girls walking around during the summer??!).

I hope someone on the Knicks teaches this kid how to be a professional in this league. I doubt it'll be Harrington. Or Chris "Night Owl" Duhon. It certainly won't be Curry.

Damn this kind of makes me realize we don't have a single veteran who is a good enough player to be respected. In retrospect I think Grant Hill would have been a great guy to have to show Chandler, Hill, and the other kids how to conduct themselves...

Ok..trying to remain positive.

Um.

God have mercy on Jordan Hill.