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Posted by misterearl:

Cosmic - What trait in Jordan Hill's skill set narrative says Renaldo Balkman?

Sheesh

[Edited by - misterearl on 07-13-2009 09:59 AM]

Aside from being white, I don't see it either.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by joec32033:

To me Hill sounds a little like Marcus Camby....

To me, Hill sounds a bit like a taller Balkman. I don't know anything about him however.

I'd like to see Hill play before I form an opinion of him. I'll get my first chance tomorrow at 6pm.

nothing like balkman,other than the dreads. Hill can actually shoot the ball, and has a nice touch. He is a great athlete but also has skills, that when fully developed will make him a very good post player..

Well I think if you haven't seen Hill play the Balkman conclusion can be made. They both have tremendous motors and were both praised for their motors. In this case though the motor is a component of Hill's game whereas in Balkman's case his motor is his entire game

If you want a Balkman clone, watch DeMarre Carroll

Posted by VDesai:

If you want a Balkman clone, watch DeMarre Carroll

Carroll can shoot and is much more skilled

Balkman and Hill are like day and night. They are nothing alike. Hill has a post up game and can play with his back to the basket. On the other hand, Balkman had no offensive moves plus he can't shoot. Balkman has more hops than Hill and could play man-to-man defense. Hill can play good help defense but his man-to-man defense is not that good.
On offense Hill has a midrange shot that is good around the foul line and baseline. Balkman on the other hand could not shoot to save his life.

The problem with Hill is he plays flat footed. Meaning he only really jumps if he is dunking the ball. If he is doing a layup he barely gets off the ground. He can get better but he is going to be a project. If Lee is resigned I expect Lee and Curry to be the starters in the frontcourt. Not to mention Mike D is going to play Jeffries and Darko. I don't expect the Knicks to play Hill much if Lee is on the team.

[Edited by - BigC on 07-13-2009 1:44 PM]

Wilcox doesn't hit the boards that hard given his size/athletic ability or play hard on defense.
I'm not confident about Hill's defense yet but he is a grade A rebounder. One of the best on the NCAA level.

Posted by TMS:

It does make you wonder tho, why a guy like Wilcox, who is also very similar can't seem to gain traction in the league.

it's all about effort & desire to improve & get better... Wilcox strikes me as a complacent guy... he's happy to collect his millions & not work on improving his skillset... he was taken high in the draft because of his amazing athletic ability & potential, but he didn't take the next steps required to raise his game to the next level... hopefully Jordan Hill doesn't follow in his footsteps... so far from the progress i've seen in Hill from his freshman season & the workout videos & games i've watched, i don't think we have to worry about him in that regard.

You're right TMS. Everyone forgets Wilcox's contract season where he was going nuts up in LA and the Clippers knew they couldn't re-sign him and had to trade him to Seattle. After he signed his deal his numbers plummeted back down to what they were two seasons before that. That guy is playing for the contract alone.

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

What the current Pres/GM did in 7 mos, the last 2 GM/Pres couldn't do in 8 yrs. FREE CAP SPACE!

A bit off topic but I like the signature Woodman. Though I don't think Isiah ever gave a crap about cap space. I don't know if Dolan ever told him there was a salary cap.