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Almond = Roberson - and that's not a good thing, Isola
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Pharzeone
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7/5/2009  12:35 PM
Posted by Markji:

Almond would be the 15th player on the squad, just like Roberson was. This isn't a big deal. Roberson played because of all of our injuries and Marbury problems.

Almond seemed slow on the Youtube clips but one never know until you see him in a game....not just highlights. Good luck to him. If he is good enough, he'll make the team.

I like Almond but he is ultra slow from the games I saw him on NBA League Pass. He didn't shoot so well in first season and Sloan had issue with him because of his bad defense and inability to get open. Like I said I have no problem with him on the SL. Hell invite my other favorite Richard Roby another H20 guy coming out of college.
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7/5/2009  1:11 PM
just because Sloan did not play him, does not mean he cannot play. I think Almond can make the squad and contribute something (more than Roberson did). Putting him on the SL team is a smart move.
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7/5/2009  1:45 PM
The only thing Roberson and Almond have in common are that it seems both are destined for a contract pre-summer league and that they can shoot. Other than that Roberson was an undisciplined chucker without a position. Almond is a really good shooter with good size that's a bad athlete. I'd rather take the 2nd player any day, b/c you can find a niche for him. While I'm not sure Almond is gonna be better than Nichols he is a lot more worthwhile than Roberson ever was.
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7/5/2009  2:03 PM
Sometimes you swing and miss. Roberson was a huge mistake, but that has nothing to do with Almond. Almond isn't a quick guy off the dribble, but I don't think he's as slow as it looks on that video. That video might be a bit off. In our system he'd be looking to take open shots and not so much trying to force the issue creating his own shot. If he can hit those open shots that Roberson missed then we'd have the player we need off the bench. Low risk...
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7/5/2009  2:41 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Sometimes you swing and miss. Roberson was a huge mistake, but that has nothing to do with Almond. Almond isn't a quick guy off the dribble, but I don't think he's as slow as it looks on that video. That video might be a bit off. In our system he'd be looking to take open shots and not so much trying to force the issue creating his own shot. If he can hit those open shots that Roberson missed then we'd have the player we need off the bench. Low risk...

When Allan Houston was at his best-was he taking guys off the dribble? No He simply was a solid shooter. All of the stats that show you a guy is not a great athlete or atleast more of just a primary marksman from the oputside--limited rebounds--limited FT atts FG% that mirrors a lower % shot--that is who H2O was. Remember Allan shot better than 45% for the Knicks only once and for his entire career did not average 3 rebounds and his assist numbers were very low. He was a shooter.

Lets give Almond a chance. He thrived in college and the D League--perhaps the Jazz were a team that was not right for him. How many examples of players do we have that guys don't play well at an early age for one club but then explode for another? I mean we all know John Starks and Anthony Mason. I think this is like getting a third first round pick in the 20's or a high 2nd rounder--why would anyone be upset with that? Being opportunistic is smart.
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7/5/2009  2:47 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nixluva:

Sometimes you swing and miss. Roberson was a huge mistake, but that has nothing to do with Almond. Almond isn't a quick guy off the dribble, but I don't think he's as slow as it looks on that video. That video might be a bit off. In our system he'd be looking to take open shots and not so much trying to force the issue creating his own shot. If he can hit those open shots that Roberson missed then we'd have the player we need off the bench. Low risk...

When Allan Houston was at his best-was he taking guys off the dribble? No He simply was a solid shooter. All of the stats that show you a guy is not a great athlete or atleast more of just a primary marksman from the oputside--limited rebounds--limited FT atts FG% that mirrors a lower % shot--that is who H2O was. Remember Allan shot better than 45% for the Knicks only once and for his entire career did not average 3 rebounds and his assist numbers were very low. He was a shooter.

Lets give Almond a chance. He thrived in college and the D League--perhaps the Jazz were a team that was not right for him. How many examples of players do we have that guys don't play well at an early age for one club but then explode for another? I mean we all know John Starks and Anthony Mason. I think this is like getting a third first round pick in the 20's or a high 2nd rounder--why would anyone be upset with that? Being opportunistic is smart.

sl is definitely the time to give someone like this a shot. but aren’t you overplaying the 6'6" 220 thing a bit here? plenty of guys that size who can shoot the basketball have never made it in the nba. let's hope he makes it, but slow unathletic 2-guards have it just as bad as short athletic ones wouldn’t you say?
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7/5/2009  2:48 PM
The problem with Roberson was he was short, unathletic and couldn't shoot
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7/5/2009  2:51 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nixluva:

Sometimes you swing and miss. Roberson was a huge mistake, but that has nothing to do with Almond. Almond isn't a quick guy off the dribble, but I don't think he's as slow as it looks on that video. That video might be a bit off. In our system he'd be looking to take open shots and not so much trying to force the issue creating his own shot. If he can hit those open shots that Roberson missed then we'd have the player we need off the bench. Low risk...

When Allan Houston was at his best-was he taking guys off the dribble? No He simply was a solid shooter. All of the stats that show you a guy is not a great athlete or atleast more of just a primary marksman from the oputside--limited rebounds--limited FT atts FG% that mirrors a lower % shot--that is who H2O was. Remember Allan shot better than 45% for the Knicks only once and for his entire career did not average 3 rebounds and his assist numbers were very low. He was a shooter.

Lets give Almond a chance. He thrived in college and the D League--perhaps the Jazz were a team that was not right for him. How many examples of players do we have that guys don't play well at an early age for one club but then explode for another? I mean we all know John Starks and Anthony Mason. I think this is like getting a third first round pick in the 20's or a high 2nd rounder--why would anyone be upset with that? Being opportunistic is smart.

sl is definitely the time to give someone like this a shot. but aren�t you overplaying the 6'6" 220 thing a bit here? plenty of guys that size who can shoot the basketball have never made it in the nba. let's hope he makes it, but slow unathletic 2-guards have it just as bad as short athletic ones wouldn�t you say?

This guy get well over the rim--I don't know who said he is not athletic but they are wrong. He was an excellent college rebounder as well and rebounded well for a guard in the D league.
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7/5/2009  2:51 PM
uh oh . . . . .

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7/5/2009  3:25 PM
Almond is ok. However, he is very slow and he is not athletic. He really can not do anything else besides hit shots. He can not even create for himself. That being said there is nothing wrong with signing him for summer league and preseason.
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7/5/2009  5:13 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nixluva:

Sometimes you swing and miss. Roberson was a huge mistake, but that has nothing to do with Almond. Almond isn't a quick guy off the dribble, but I don't think he's as slow as it looks on that video. That video might be a bit off. In our system he'd be looking to take open shots and not so much trying to force the issue creating his own shot. If he can hit those open shots that Roberson missed then we'd have the player we need off the bench. Low risk...

When Allan Houston was at his best-was he taking guys off the dribble? No He simply was a solid shooter. All of the stats that show you a guy is not a great athlete or atleast more of just a primary marksman from the oputside--limited rebounds--limited FT atts FG% that mirrors a lower % shot--that is who H2O was. Remember Allan shot better than 45% for the Knicks only once and for his entire career did not average 3 rebounds and his assist numbers were very low. He was a shooter.

Lets give Almond a chance. He thrived in college and the D League--perhaps the Jazz were a team that was not right for him. How many examples of players do we have that guys don't play well at an early age for one club but then explode for another? I mean we all know John Starks and Anthony Mason. I think this is like getting a third first round pick in the 20's or a high 2nd rounder--why would anyone be upset with that? Being opportunistic is smart.

sl is definitely the time to give someone like this a shot. but aren�t you overplaying the 6'6" 220 thing a bit here? plenty of guys that size who can shoot the basketball have never made it in the nba. let's hope he makes it, but slow unathletic 2-guards have it just as bad as short athletic ones wouldn�t you say?

This guy get well over the rim--I don't know who said he is not athletic but they are wrong. He was an excellent college rebounder as well and rebounded well for a guard in the D league.

Now you are just making up crap now. Almond did not play above the rim in college and he isn't very athletic. He was a very good spot up shooter at Rice. You are now on one of your craze moments with a player.
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7/5/2009  5:35 PM
^
That's why I think it's funny that people think Almond can replace Nate Robinson.
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7/5/2009  5:39 PM
I'm still waiting for Russell Walker Jr. to get his big break.
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7/5/2009  5:51 PM
Posted by Marv:

uh oh . . . . .


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7/5/2009  6:01 PM
Posted by BigC:

^
That's why I think it's funny that people think Almond can replace Nate Robinson.

Wow, who said Almond can replace Nate? If someone said that, I definitely missed it. I think people believe Almond can be a solid guy off the bench for us, I don't know about anyone saying he'll replace Nate.
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7/5/2009  6:03 PM
Posted by Marv:

uh oh . . . . .




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7/5/2009  7:08 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nixluva:

Sometimes you swing and miss. Roberson was a huge mistake, but that has nothing to do with Almond. Almond isn't a quick guy off the dribble, but I don't think he's as slow as it looks on that video. That video might be a bit off. In our system he'd be looking to take open shots and not so much trying to force the issue creating his own shot. If he can hit those open shots that Roberson missed then we'd have the player we need off the bench. Low risk...

When Allan Houston was at his best-was he taking guys off the dribble? No He simply was a solid shooter. All of the stats that show you a guy is not a great athlete or atleast more of just a primary marksman from the oputside--limited rebounds--limited FT atts FG% that mirrors a lower % shot--that is who H2O was. Remember Allan shot better than 45% for the Knicks only once and for his entire career did not average 3 rebounds and his assist numbers were very low. He was a shooter.

Lets give Almond a chance. He thrived in college and the D League--perhaps the Jazz were a team that was not right for him. How many examples of players do we have that guys don't play well at an early age for one club but then explode for another? I mean we all know John Starks and Anthony Mason. I think this is like getting a third first round pick in the 20's or a high 2nd rounder--why would anyone be upset with that? Being opportunistic is smart.
ah was just a jumpshooter? briggs, you're really not capturing who ah was, seriously.
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7/5/2009  7:51 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nixluva:

Sometimes you swing and miss. Roberson was a huge mistake, but that has nothing to do with Almond. Almond isn't a quick guy off the dribble, but I don't think he's as slow as it looks on that video. That video might be a bit off. In our system he'd be looking to take open shots and not so much trying to force the issue creating his own shot. If he can hit those open shots that Roberson missed then we'd have the player we need off the bench. Low risk...

When Allan Houston was at his best-was he taking guys off the dribble? No He simply was a solid shooter. All of the stats that show you a guy is not a great athlete or atleast more of just a primary marksman from the oputside--limited rebounds--limited FT atts FG% that mirrors a lower % shot--that is who H2O was. Remember Allan shot better than 45% for the Knicks only once and for his entire career did not average 3 rebounds and his assist numbers were very low. He was a shooter.

Lets give Almond a chance. He thrived in college and the D League--perhaps the Jazz were a team that was not right for him. How many examples of players do we have that guys don't play well at an early age for one club but then explode for another? I mean we all know John Starks and Anthony Mason. I think this is like getting a third first round pick in the 20's or a high 2nd rounder--why would anyone be upset with that? Being opportunistic is smart.

sl is definitely the time to give someone like this a shot. but aren�t you overplaying the 6'6" 220 thing a bit here? plenty of guys that size who can shoot the basketball have never made it in the nba. let's hope he makes it, but slow unathletic 2-guards have it just as bad as short athletic ones wouldn�t you say?

This guy get well over the rim--I don't know who said he is not athletic but they are wrong. He was an excellent college rebounder as well and rebounded well for a guard in the D league.

Now you are just making up crap now. Almond did not play above the rim in college and he isn't very athletic. He was a very good spot up shooter at Rice. You are now on one of your craze moments with a player.

This is a guy who averaged nearly 7 rebounds a game his last year at Rice and ranked 19 athletically out of a field of 85 in 2006. Im not calling him DR J now but you dont grab 7 rebounds a game from the G position in division 1 playing below the rim.
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7/5/2009  8:12 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nixluva:

Sometimes you swing and miss. Roberson was a huge mistake, but that has nothing to do with Almond. Almond isn't a quick guy off the dribble, but I don't think he's as slow as it looks on that video. That video might be a bit off. In our system he'd be looking to take open shots and not so much trying to force the issue creating his own shot. If he can hit those open shots that Roberson missed then we'd have the player we need off the bench. Low risk...

When Allan Houston was at his best-was he taking guys off the dribble? No He simply was a solid shooter. All of the stats that show you a guy is not a great athlete or atleast more of just a primary marksman from the oputside--limited rebounds--limited FT atts FG% that mirrors a lower % shot--that is who H2O was. Remember Allan shot better than 45% for the Knicks only once and for his entire career did not average 3 rebounds and his assist numbers were very low. He was a shooter.

Lets give Almond a chance. He thrived in college and the D League--perhaps the Jazz were a team that was not right for him. How many examples of players do we have that guys don't play well at an early age for one club but then explode for another? I mean we all know John Starks and Anthony Mason. I think this is like getting a third first round pick in the 20's or a high 2nd rounder--why would anyone be upset with that? Being opportunistic is smart.

sl is definitely the time to give someone like this a shot. but aren�t you overplaying the 6'6" 220 thing a bit here? plenty of guys that size who can shoot the basketball have never made it in the nba. let's hope he makes it, but slow unathletic 2-guards have it just as bad as short athletic ones wouldn�t you say?

This guy get well over the rim--I don't know who said he is not athletic but they are wrong. He was an excellent college rebounder as well and rebounded well for a guard in the D league.

Now you are just making up crap now. Almond did not play above the rim in college and he isn't very athletic. He was a very good spot up shooter at Rice. You are now on one of your craze moments with a player.

This is a guy who averaged nearly 7 rebounds a game his last year at Rice and ranked 19 athletically out of a field of 85 in 2006. Im not calling him DR J now but you dont grab 7 rebounds a game from the G position in division 1 playing below the rim.

Getting rebounds is not about hops it's about positioning. Jason Kidd is a good rebounder and he does not have hops. K-Mart has hops out of this world but he can't rebound. If you box out you will get a rebound. Look at the Knicks own Charles Oakley. Almond was a good rebounder in college but it was not because he was athletic.

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7/5/2009  8:21 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I'm still waiting for Russell Walker Jr. to get his big break.

You're likely being sarcastic but you can't ignore how tough he plays. I like the guy and I was always surprised he never got a shot with a team. He's fearless, he's efficient, he's smart. What else would you want from a 15th man?


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