lee may not be able to beat u from 3 but he can make plays in the high post both passing and off the dribble. In fact the case can be made for how portland plays lee would be a better fit with roy and la. He consistently moves himself and the ball into areas of high percentage shots.

Posted by fishmike:

In addition, Bartelstein claims he's talked to nearly 15 teams that have proposed sign-and-trade deals with the Knicks for Lee.

awesome... DW always gets great value in trades. This is our best case scenario. Maybe a pick, expiring contract and lost cost prospect

keeping my fingers crossed... Donnie really needs to make a trade of Lee & get back some useful assets.

King, if Lee is signed to a big extension we won't be getting a max FA next year... THAT'S THE WHOLE DAMN POINT!!!... i like Lee as a player & have told u this on many different occasions, but the situation we're in dictates that we can't afford to use up valuable cap space to retain him... your man crush on Lee has clouded your vision, i question whether you're even a Knicks fan or a fan of David Lee at this point... but hey, as soon as David Lee leads us to the playoffs next year & we sign a max FA in 2010, i'll be more than happy to eat my words... & if he ends up on another team next year we can listen to you bitch the next five or six years about how we woulda won multiple championships if we'd held onto him.

Posted by King1:

If Lee get 9 or ten million you will still have room for a max free agent next year you just wont have room for two. If you get one in 2010 and then one in 2011 the Knicks will be fine

Just as long as Lee gets paid so you don't have to continue to sleep in his underwear drawer

Take a deep breath enyspree and have mom bring you a sandwich downstairs in the basement and everything will be all right.

Posted by King1:

If Lee get 9 or ten million you will still have room for a max free agent next year you just wont have room for two. If you get one in 2010 and then one in 2011 the Knicks will be fine

New York Knicks Salaries 2010/11

Eddy Curry $11,276,863 (Player Option)
Jared Jeffries $6,883,400 (Player Option)
Danilo Gallinari $3,304,560 (Team Option)
Wilson Chandler $2,130,481 (Team Option)
Jordan Hill $2,069,400
Joe Crawford $1,029,389 (Q.O. RFA)
Chris Hunter $1,029,389 (Q.O. RFA)
Toney Douglas $830,200

TOTALS: $28,553,682

assuming we refuse the options on Crawford & Hunter, we can minus $2,058,778 off that total, which brings the actual total of guaranteed money in 2010/11 to $26,494,904.

now add in a max FA at ~$17 mil to that total, you now have about $43 million in guaranteed money tied up in 2010... throw in D Lee at ~$10 mil to that & you now have ~$53 million in guaranteed money tied up in 2010... now you have 4-7 more spots on the roster that still need (& you still don't even have a single PG on that team for that matter) to be filled with the remaining ~$3-5 mil or so leftover.

you mind telling me how a team of one max FA, D Lee, Hill, Chandler, Gallo, Curry, Fishlips & Douglas are gonna compete in a newly stacked Eastern Conference & still have the means to bring in a suitable starting PG to run the show when we don't even have a 1st round pick next year to draft ourselves one & still fill all the remaining roster slots that need to be filled on the roster using only $3-5 mil in leftover cap space money??? i'll give u all the time in the world to answer that one.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-04-2009 6:21 PM]

Posted by djsunyc:

you can sign unlimited # of vets to the league minimum (which right now is about $1.4 mil).

but king1 has a point, there are free agents available in 2011 too. so why not wait the 1 more year and target a 2nd big time free agent then?

so u think we're gonna get a suitable starting PG using the veteran's minimum? come on dude.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by djsunyc:

you can sign unlimited # of vets to the league minimum (which right now is about $1.4 mil).

but king1 has a point, there are free agents available in 2011 too. so why not wait the 1 more year and target a 2nd big time free agent then?

so u think we're gonna get a suitable starting PG using the veteran's minimum? come on dude.

not my problem but you're overthinking it. you don't even know which free agent you're getting in 2010. if it's lebron, you don't need a superstar pg. heck, they had boobie gibson and made the finals.

getting Lebron or Wade are the ONLY way we wouldn't need a PG & still be competitive w/that roster... so unless you're in the boat of people putting all their eggs into the Lebron/Wade basket i don't get ur point here... i'm not overthinking it, i'm just laying out the situation for u like it is... we will need some cap space to sign a PG who can start on this team, or be able to trade for one using 1 of our trade assets... judging from what we had to pay Duhon u have to assume it's going to be more than a MLE contract to get an upgrade there.

so unless you're planning on giving Chandler away in a deal for a PG right now (which I still can see happening w/Rubio), then you're still up sheet's creek w/o a paddle next year unless u can cash in on signing Lebron James or D Wade... that's just how it is... 2011 is 2011, this is the plan for 2010 we're talking about here.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by King1:

If Lee get 9 or ten million you will still have room for a max free agent next year you just wont have room for two. If you get one in 2010 and then one in 2011 the Knicks will be fine

New York Knicks Salaries 2010/11

Eddy Curry $11,276,863 (Player Option)
Jared Jeffries $6,883,400 (Player Option)
Danilo Gallinari $3,304,560 (Team Option)
Wilson Chandler $2,130,481 (Team Option)
Jordan Hill $2,069,400
Joe Crawford $1,029,389 (Q.O. RFA)
Chris Hunter $1,029,389 (Q.O. RFA)
Toney Douglas $830,200

TOTALS: $28,553,682

assuming we refuse the options on Crawford & Hunter, we can minus $2,058,778 off that total, which brings the actual total of guaranteed money in 2010/11 to $26,494,904.

now add in a max FA at ~$17 mil to that total, you now have about $43 million in guaranteed money tied up in 2010... throw in D Lee at ~$10 mil to that & you now have ~$53 million in guaranteed money tied up in 2010... now you have 4-7 more spots on the roster that still need (& you still don't even have a single PG on that team for that matter) to be filled with the remaining ~$3-5 mil or so leftover.

you mind telling me how a team of one max FA, D Lee, Hill, Chandler, Gallo, Curry, Fishlips & Douglas are gonna compete in a newly stacked Eastern Conference & still have the means to bring in a suitable starting PG to run the show when we don't even have a 1st round pick next year to draft ourselves one & still fill all the remaining roster slots that need to be filled on the roster using only $3-5 mil in leftover cap space money??? i'll give u all the time in the world to answer that one.

[Edited by - TMS on 07-04-2009 6:21 PM]

Good points...but it does seem that really what you are doing is showing the great need to get rid of the Curry contract. That move alone could put the Knicks in serious contention in the East in 2010.