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arkrud
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7/3/2009  10:32 PM
Posted by TMS:

Duhon is the anti Christ


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7/3/2009  11:23 PM
Yes
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He is a strong human who fought through back pain and other injuries for us because we really needed him to. He needs to be praised. He will be better next year if he has to start, but if he comes off the bench I think he is a great piece to have on our team.
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7/4/2009  6:52 AM
He played well early on, but because of injuries to other players, he played too many minutes. The last couple of months in the season, he was playing hurt and tired and couldn't get it done.
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7/4/2009  8:28 AM
Posted by Ira:

He played well early on, but because of injuries to other players, he played too many minutes. The last couple of months in the season, he was playing hurt and tired and couldn't get it done.
He was paid to be a starter. And not for nothing, but Marbury and Jamal played about the same minutes as Duhon and they are asked to score as well as setup the offense.Yet they never got a free pass from fans because of injures or playing time. The bottom line is the pick and roll got old and teams adapted to it because that's all Duhon knew how to run. Plus him being a party animal did not help his cause.
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7/6/2009  9:55 AM
Duhon is not Marbury or Crawford. He has one tenth their talent. He is a career back up that was thrust into a starting role and ended up averaging 7 assists per game. As a starting PG obviously we need something better. But if you look at him as what he is, a stopgap PG thrust into a starting role then he wasn't bad. As a backup he would be great. Problem is that we need to find a starter at the PG by the time his contract runs out because we can't pay him 6 mill again from 2010 and beyond
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7/6/2009  10:01 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

Duhon is not Marbury or Crawford. He has one tenth their talent. He is a career back up that was thrust into a starting role and ended up averaging 7 assists per game. As a starting PG obviously we need something better. But if you look at him as what he is, a stopgap PG thrust into a starting role then he wasn't bad. As a backup he would be great. Problem is that we need to find a starter at the PG by the time his contract runs out because we can't pay him 6 mill again from 2010 and beyond

Right- I personally think a contending team would be thrilled to land him at the trade deadline to be their backup PG (especially considering his contract status). He's also the perfect solution for a team that loses its starting PG to injury for an extended period of time. I think he'll hold a good deal of value for us as a trading chip, especially if he re-gains some of his form from early last year
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7/6/2009  10:10 AM
Posted by TMS:

Duhon is the anti Christ


I thought twitter was the anti Christ
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7/6/2009  10:11 AM
Is Duhon really that much of a partier? How do we know this for sure?
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7/6/2009  10:16 AM
Posted by DrAlphaeus:

Is Duhon really that much of a partier? How do we know this for sure?

Since his Chicago days I've seen people posting picks of him with a ****tail in his hand and a few broads around his arm... go over to Real GM and start a thread "Does Chris Duhon Party?" and the 14-year-olds will cram three pages worth of variations of the same picture... different girls, maybe a vodka cranberry instead of a jack and coke

[Edited by - supremecommander on 07-06-2009 10:19 AM]
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7/6/2009  10:30 AM
Duhon was a really good player for the first 3 months. I think its pretty clear he wasnt able to handle a 40 minute a night work load.

I guess there is no need to mention that Nate was good for 21/6/5 as a starter? I mean... lets go replace that with some eurotrash ASAP before we work on developing our own talent
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7/6/2009  12:18 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by TMS:

Duhon is the anti Christ


I thought twitter was the anti Christ

both... Twitter is the Anti Christ part deux... Duhon is the original Anti Christ.
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7/6/2009  12:27 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by TMS:

Duhon is the anti Christ


I thought twitter was the anti Christ

Chris Duhon is the physical manifestation of Twitter.
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7/6/2009  12:29 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Duhon was a really good player for the first 3 months. I think its pretty clear he wasnt able to handle a 40 minute a night work load.

I guess there is no need to mention that Nate was good for 21/6/5 as a starter? I mean... lets go replace that with some eurotrash ASAP before we work on developing our own talent

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7/6/2009  12:54 PM
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by fishmike:

Duhon was a really good player for the first 3 months. I think its pretty clear he wasnt able to handle a 40 minute a night work load.

I guess there is no need to mention that Nate was good for 21/6/5 as a starter? I mean... lets go replace that with some eurotrash ASAP before we work on developing our own talent

Totally ignored Fish
lol.. its ok.

Nate is gone most likely because MDA cant stand him, but he's not a chemistry killer. If we could get him back here for a couple of years at just below MLE type money I am wondering what the downside is.

Is Lee's 16/12 that much more important than Nate's 18/4/4 and off the bench? Half of Nate's time was at backup PG last year.

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7/6/2009  1:10 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by fishmike:

Duhon was a really good player for the first 3 months. I think its pretty clear he wasnt able to handle a 40 minute a night work load.

I guess there is no need to mention that Nate was good for 21/6/5 as a starter? I mean... lets go replace that with some eurotrash ASAP before we work on developing our own talent

Totally ignored Fish
lol.. its ok.

Nate is gone most likely because MDA cant stand him, but he's not a chemistry killer. If we could get him back here for a couple of years at just below MLE type money I am wondering what the downside is.

Is Lee's 16/12 that much more important than Nate's 18/4/4 and off the bench? Half of Nate's time was at backup PG last year.

I personally have no problem with Nate. His antics tick me off many times, but that is not the reason we are losing. A guy like Nate needs a veteran mentor to show him the proper way to be a professional. At that point he is an incredible weapon off the bench. Instant offense and energy. On a good team, I think he is very solid. On a bad team he is unappreciated because he cannot affect winning on his own.

Thing is, if you keep a guy like Nate, mental development is key. You need veterans or he will continue down this path forever.
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7/6/2009  1:22 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by fishmike:

Duhon was a really good player for the first 3 months. I think its pretty clear he wasnt able to handle a 40 minute a night work load.

I guess there is no need to mention that Nate was good for 21/6/5 as a starter? I mean... lets go replace that with some eurotrash ASAP before we work on developing our own talent

Totally ignored Fish
lol.. its ok.

Nate is gone most likely because MDA cant stand him, but he's not a chemistry killer. If we could get him back here for a couple of years at just below MLE type money I am wondering what the downside is.

Is Lee's 16/12 that much more important than Nate's 18/4/4 and off the bench? Half of Nate's time was at backup PG last year.

I personally have no problem with Nate. His antics tick me off many times, but that is not the reason we are losing. A guy like Nate needs a veteran mentor to show him the proper way to be a professional. At that point he is an incredible weapon off the bench. Instant offense and energy. On a good team, I think he is very solid. On a bad team he is unappreciated because he cannot affect winning on his own.

Thing is, if you keep a guy like Nate, mental development is key. You need veterans or he will continue down this path forever.

You mean a Locker Room Monitor? Someone like Grant Hill?
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7/6/2009  1:33 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by fishmike:

Duhon was a really good player for the first 3 months. I think its pretty clear he wasnt able to handle a 40 minute a night work load.

I guess there is no need to mention that Nate was good for 21/6/5 as a starter? I mean... lets go replace that with some eurotrash ASAP before we work on developing our own talent

Totally ignored Fish
lol.. its ok.

Nate is gone most likely because MDA cant stand him, but he's not a chemistry killer. If we could get him back here for a couple of years at just below MLE type money I am wondering what the downside is.

Is Lee's 16/12 that much more important than Nate's 18/4/4 and off the bench? Half of Nate's time was at backup PG last year.

I personally have no problem with Nate. His antics tick me off many times, but that is not the reason we are losing. A guy like Nate needs a veteran mentor to show him the proper way to be a professional. At that point he is an incredible weapon off the bench. Instant offense and energy. On a good team, I think he is very solid. On a bad team he is unappreciated because he cannot affect winning on his own.

Thing is, if you keep a guy like Nate, mental development is key. You need veterans or he will continue down this path forever.

You mean a Locker Room Monitor? Someone like Grant Hill?

I would prefer a veteran PG. Jason Kidd would have been great. In football they often have a veteran quarterback to mentor the young up and coming QB. In basketball you need a PG mentor(one that has won before and can still play now) to show the young guys the light. Although Marbury was close to the light, so maybe this isn't what we need
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7/6/2009  1:38 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by fishmike:

Duhon was a really good player for the first 3 months. I think its pretty clear he wasnt able to handle a 40 minute a night work load.

I guess there is no need to mention that Nate was good for 21/6/5 as a starter? I mean... lets go replace that with some eurotrash ASAP before we work on developing our own talent

Totally ignored Fish
lol.. its ok.

Nate is gone most likely because MDA cant stand him, but he's not a chemistry killer. If we could get him back here for a couple of years at just below MLE type money I am wondering what the downside is.

Is Lee's 16/12 that much more important than Nate's 18/4/4 and off the bench? Half of Nate's time was at backup PG last year.

I personally have no problem with Nate. His antics tick me off many times, but that is not the reason we are losing. A guy like Nate needs a veteran mentor to show him the proper way to be a professional. At that point he is an incredible weapon off the bench. Instant offense and energy. On a good team, I think he is very solid. On a bad team he is unappreciated because he cannot affect winning on his own.

Thing is, if you keep a guy like Nate, mental development is key. You need veterans or he will continue down this path forever.

You mean a Locker Room Monitor? Someone like Grant Hill?

I would prefer a veteran PG. Jason Kidd would have been great. In football they often have a veteran quarterback to mentor the young up and coming QB. In basketball you need a PG mentor(one that has won before and can still play now) to show the young guys the light. Although Marbury was close to the light, so maybe this isn't what we need

Too bad we let Marbury go, huh?
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7/6/2009  1:38 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by buddapaw:
Posted by fishmike:

Duhon was a really good player for the first 3 months. I think its pretty clear he wasnt able to handle a 40 minute a night work load.

I guess there is no need to mention that Nate was good for 21/6/5 as a starter? I mean... lets go replace that with some eurotrash ASAP before we work on developing our own talent

Totally ignored Fish
lol.. its ok.

Nate is gone most likely because MDA cant stand him, but he's not a chemistry killer. If we could get him back here for a couple of years at just below MLE type money I am wondering what the downside is.

Is Lee's 16/12 that much more important than Nate's 18/4/4 and off the bench? Half of Nate's time was at backup PG last year.

I personally have no problem with Nate. His antics tick me off many times, but that is not the reason we are losing. A guy like Nate needs a veteran mentor to show him the proper way to be a professional. At that point he is an incredible weapon off the bench. Instant offense and energy. On a good team, I think he is very solid. On a bad team he is unappreciated because he cannot affect winning on his own.

Thing is, if you keep a guy like Nate, mental development is key. You need veterans or he will continue down this path forever.

You mean a Locker Room Monitor? Someone like Grant Hill?

I would prefer a veteran PG. Jason Kidd would have been great. In football they often have a veteran quarterback to mentor the young up and coming QB. In basketball you need a PG mentor(one that has won before and can still play now) to show the young guys the light. Although Marbury was close to the light, so maybe this isn't what we need

i say wouldn’t have happened. jkidd gets pissy and wants out when things aren’t going his way. i doubt he’s that interested in mentoring a pg that’s being groomed to replace him.

and oh btw this is the job description for our next locker room monitor:



isn’t nate all about this??
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7/6/2009  2:15 PM
I agree with Bip, we have no leadership on this team period and that has cost plenty of games. We also have to many players with 1 and 2 year contracts that simply play for numbers like Dlee. With a lame duck status team, how are we ever going to attract anybody worth while..kidds none aquisation was evident that, he would have done wonders for nate and duhon.Dallas is no where near LA or SA as far as contending, and kidd would have easily pick up 6mill in endorsements and would have been part of something special. We had no player on this team that kidd is even remotely cool with that would help the process.
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