Posted by Pharzeone:

Kerr took over a team that went to game 6 of the WCF. They regress dramatically within those two years to a point they were a lottery team at the end of the 2nd year. How in the world did he make moves to sustain them or get them to the next level. He said he wanted to add defense but his team didn't improve defensively, wanted a half court system. He feuded with the coach over the issue, fired/let the coach walk, added a defensive coach and players. Within one year, he fired the defensive coach and went back to an run and gun offensive team and fail. Pouring more fire? Dude brought in a hell storm to the situation and is running around the place in state of panic. This potential trade sums up that fact.

my point is he tried, then when it didn't work out, he stopped and new it was time to fold em.

Realistically, he should have looked to break apart his team as soon as he got there.


Contrast this with Isiah - he just kept digging his hole until we've got probably one of the most pathetic team situations out there.

I would like Nash this year but we really need Nash in 2010 - 2011 to go along with any other Super star we can sign. No need to give up a lot now when he will be a FA next year.

Posted by TMS:

Lee & Nate is too much for Nash? i have to disagree w/u there, if anything it's not paying enough, especially when teams know we're handcuffed here... everyone knows we don't wanna take on any more salary for 2010... Nash has a team option for 2010, but he's 1 of the likely FA's MDA would target that year anyways... we could renegotiate his extension at a lower base & he will help make NY a more attractive place to play for someone like Lebron... if Donnie could get Nash for Mobley & Nate, all power to him, but i wouldn't blink at giving up Lee & Nate either.

Nash is 35. Lee and Nate are ten years younger. Giving up either one of them in a trade for Nash is Scott Laydenesque GM'ing at its finest

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TMS:

Lee & Nate is too much for Nash? i have to disagree w/u there, if anything it's not paying enough, especially when teams know we're handcuffed here... everyone knows we don't wanna take on any more salary for 2010... Nash has a team option for 2010, but he's 1 of the likely FA's MDA would target that year anyways... we could renegotiate his extension at a lower base & he will help make NY a more attractive place to play for someone like Lebron... if Donnie could get Nash for Mobley & Nate, all power to him, but i wouldn't blink at giving up Lee & Nate either.

Nash is 35. Lee and Nate are ten years younger. Giving up either one of them in a trade for Nash is Scott Laydenesque GM'ing at its finest

lol... hey, i think Anthony Roberson is like 10 years younger than Nash too... what's that got to do with anything? neither Lee nor Nate are as good or ever will be as good of a player as Nash is right now... i would take Nash over both Lee & Nate in a heartbeat.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TMS:

Lee & Nate is too much for Nash? i have to disagree w/u there, if anything it's not paying enough, especially when teams know we're handcuffed here... everyone knows we don't wanna take on any more salary for 2010... Nash has a team option for 2010, but he's 1 of the likely FA's MDA would target that year anyways... we could renegotiate his extension at a lower base & he will help make NY a more attractive place to play for someone like Lebron... if Donnie could get Nash for Mobley & Nate, all power to him, but i wouldn't blink at giving up Lee & Nate either.

Nash is 35. Lee and Nate are ten years younger. Giving up either one of them in a trade for Nash is Scott Laydenesque GM'ing at its finest

lol... hey, i think Anthony Roberson is like 10 years younger than Nash too... what's that got to do with anything? neither Lee nor Nate are as good or ever will be as good of a player as Nash is right now... i would take Nash over both Lee & Nate in a heartbeat.

more Layden talk.

time isn't on Nash's side. Nate and Lee have a much bigger window to be key components on a title team.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TMS:

Lee & Nate is too much for Nash? i have to disagree w/u there, if anything it's not paying enough, especially when teams know we're handcuffed here... everyone knows we don't wanna take on any more salary for 2010... Nash has a team option for 2010, but he's 1 of the likely FA's MDA would target that year anyways... we could renegotiate his extension at a lower base & he will help make NY a more attractive place to play for someone like Lebron... if Donnie could get Nash for Mobley & Nate, all power to him, but i wouldn't blink at giving up Lee & Nate either.

Nash is 35. Lee and Nate are ten years younger. Giving up either one of them in a trade for Nash is Scott Laydenesque GM'ing at its finest

lol... hey, i think Anthony Roberson is like 10 years younger than Nash too... what's that got to do with anything? neither Lee nor Nate are as good or ever will be as good of a player as Nash is right now... i would take Nash over both Lee & Nate in a heartbeat.

more Layden talk.

time isn't on Nash's side. Nate and Lee have a much bigger window to be key components on a title team.

a Layden move would be to sign up both Lee & Nate to overvalued contracts & then asking for Lebron James in a S&T dude.

they're values are not at an alltime high... their values were at an alltime high before the trade deadline last season & the offseason before... now they're gonna be signed to longterm extensions at pretty big dollars during a time where teams are all trying to cut payroll for the 2010 free agency blitz.

& i disagree w/ur take on Nash's value to a rebuilding team like ours... adding Nash to this team would solve 2 things... we get a starting PG who will drive this system & help us win games next season, & we make our team a more attractive place to play for another FA in 2010.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-27-2009 6:34 PM]

care to show me where i said adding Nash to this team would help us beat the Magic or Celtics in a 7 game series? cuz i musta missed it... i said he would help this team make a run at the playoffs next season, which seems to be a high priority for Walsh & MDA from their comments up to this point... it also fits into Donnie's plan to have cap flexibility in 2010 because like i said, Nash's contract has a team option that year, which means we can re-sign him at a lower base & still potentially have enough cap space to sign another high level FA that year... please don't tell me that having Nate on the team would appeal more to Lebron coming here than having Nash... it's not even close dude.

& like u just admitted, it's a buyers' market... which means ur not gonna get much better than Nash when trying to unload both Lee & Nate elsewhere, cuz make no mistake about it, at this point we are in dump mode w/those 2 guys... everyone knows we're not gonna be signing them to keep here beyond this season.