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6/16/2009  3:38 PM
It wasn't directed specifically at you. Like I said I've seen sites say he is Kidd Nash Pistol Pete and Walt Clyde rolled in one.

Its like the movie Twins and Rubio is Schwarzenneger
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6/16/2009  3:47 PM
i think all scouting reports like to bring up comparisons because it gives fans a general idea of the style of player these kids might develop into... i don't think u'r meant to assume these unproven kids are a lock to be the next whoever it is they're compared with... that should go without saying.
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6/16/2009  4:59 PM
Posted by kingofelpaso:

Chandler actually defends pretty well, he gets a decent number of steals and block. He lead the team in blocks (although that says just about as much about the other players than it does for him), but still he's athletic enough to still with most players at his position

Gallo, hasnt even been healthy yet. And when he was playing he actually showed some decent signs of being at least a sufficient defender. Once he gets healthy and puts on some weight, I think he'll be able to be a decent defender. I remember one particular block he had on Shaq, there could be more of that to come.

Rubio was the defensive player of the year in his league. He might have problems staying in front of some quicker guards, but I'll be he does well in the steal department.

Add the 3 of them with a big shot blocker down low and I think they could at least be a solid defensive unit, even if none of them are individually excellent defenders

I agree w/ Supreme, add Bosh and youve got a team fighting for the East in a year or 2 and a pretty attractive destination for the crop of 2010, names excluded

Beat me to giving almost the same response.

We really need that shot blocker/intimidator in the middle, though, and for me, Bosh is not the answer to that particular need. A defensive specialist or two who can be brought in to guard an oppositions superstar SG or SF would also be nice
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6/16/2009  6:18 PM
No, I don't think they will move up because there are many players they can take at 8 and be happy.
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6/16/2009  6:42 PM
If the Knicks move up, I think it will be to Memphis and will involve a salary dump by Memphis and the Knicks will get Thabeet. Beyond that, I think the Knicks can stand pat and be delighted with the 8 Pick.
1) Griffin
2) Rubio
3) Thabeet
4) Hill
5) Harden
6) Curry
7) Jennings
8) Derozan

They will leave the draft with at least one of these players. I'd try and make a move for a PF/C (i.e. Hill or Thabeet). The only way I give up the 8 pick to move up, though, is if S.Rod is on his way to NYC in a different trade. I think S.Rod from Portland and either of Hill or Thabeet would be a great draft day coup.
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6/16/2009  7:33 PM
I dunno, but i've decided that my backup plan for the Knicks, if they can't get one of their guys (rubio, curry, jennings)...

is do what it takes to get a late 1st rounder.

i'm fairly lukewarm about flynn and holiday...not to say they won't be decent players, and holiday at least will give you some defense and size, but i get more of a serviceable type of role player vibe from them thus far...

evans, who i had criticized earlier, is someone i might consider given his ability to play the 1 or 2, and is a big, but i'm still hesitant, because i dunno. too much potential for a jamal crawford, who we just don't need right now.

so my backup plan with the extra pick is...

use the 8th pick to take mullens, and then use the late one to take guys like...

mills, beaubois, teague, lawson (maybe), maynor, christmas, collison, etc.

i would be more than satisfied with that kind of result.

and i will state again and again that i don't think the knicks are interested in derozon so if you hope for this, imho, are just setting yourself up for disappointment.

i will gladly eat crow if i am wrong, but the knicks have more pressing needs that are likely to be available.

[Edited by - PresIke on 06-16-2009 7:35 PM]
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6/17/2009  1:03 AM
i don't think the Knicks are interested in Derozan either... i'm not even expecting us to pick him at this point... i think they'll take another undersized shooting G posing as a point or another ball dominating PG with a scorer's mentality & try to explain to the Knicks fanbase how that was the ideal pick to make to try & build a championship contender... if they do anything to surprise me it will be to move up to take Rubio at this point.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-16-2009 10:03 PM]
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6/17/2009  2:48 AM
i'm thinking more & more the Knicks are heavy & hard after Rubio... the fact that he didn't work out for SAC seems to suggest there's another team picking after Sactown that's gonna be trading up to the top 3 to take that kid, & we've already heard rumblings that he doesn't want to play in MEM & his agent doesn't want him in OKL... then there's the issue of his buyout, & NY would seem to fit the market for him to come to where that won't be as much of an issue... he could probably make that back easily from endorsement deals... LAC is locked on w/Griffin most likely at #1... sounds like MEM will probably take Thabeet at #2.

i'm getting the feeling that NY & OKL will be making a draft day trade for Rubio to come to NY, especially if Jordan Hill falls to #8... MIN has the assets to move up w/the #6 & #18 picks, but not the market to appease his buyout issues, so i don't get the feeling it's them... of course GS could be the wildcard here if they move up to grab Rubio at #2 by using Monta Ellis as trade bait, but they're under pressure to win now so i don't think they'd be as willing to take on a young player that they'd have to wait a couple years to blossom... i think they'd be fine w/someone like Harden at #7.

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6/17/2009  1:23 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:

If the Knicks move up, I think it will be to Memphis and will involve a salary dump by Memphis and the Knicks will get Thabeet. Beyond that, I think the Knicks can stand pat and be delighted with the 8 Pick.
1) Griffin
2) Rubio
3) Thabeet
4) Hill
5) Harden
6) Curry
7) Jennings
8) Derozan

They will leave the draft with at least one of these players. I'd try and make a move for a PF/C (i.e. Hill or Thabeet). The only way I give up the 8 pick to move up, though, is if S.Rod is on his way to NYC in a different trade. I think S.Rod from Portland and either of Hill or Thabeet would be a great draft day coup.

I highly doubt the Knicks want Thabeet even at 8. The Knicks are really running an offensive-minded system. While Thabeet has shown some signs of offense--he's probably 25th on the list of players the Knicks consider in terms of what will help their system.
They want Curry or Rubio and really I have no idea who they would want after that. I would say this draft is a Rubio Curry or bust for the Knicks--to the point where getting rid of more salary cap is a distant second place. I think they want either one of these guys and anything else may be considerably less.
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6/17/2009  1:29 PM
Posted by TMS:

i'm thinking more & more the Knicks are heavy & hard after Rubio... the fact that he didn't work out for SAC seems to suggest there's another team picking after Sactown that's gonna be trading up to the top 3 to take that kid, & we've already heard rumblings that he doesn't want to play in MEM & his agent doesn't want him in OKL... then there's the issue of his buyout, & NY would seem to fit the market for him to come to where that won't be as much of an issue... he could probably make that back easily from endorsement deals... LAC is locked on w/Griffin most likely at #1... sounds like MEM will probably take Thabeet at #2.

i'm getting the feeling that NY & OKL will be making a draft day trade for Rubio to come to NY, especially if Jordan Hill falls to #8... MIN has the assets to move up w/the #6 & #18 picks, but not the market to appease his buyout issues, so i don't get the feeling it's them... of course GS could be the wildcard here if they move up to grab Rubio at #2 by using Monta Ellis as trade bait, but they're under pressure to win now so i don't think they'd be as willing to take on a young player that they'd have to wait a couple years to blossom... i think they'd be fine w/someone like Harden at #7.

Miss Cleo has spoken.

Why would OKC not take Rubio straight up and trade him to Minn if that was their plan? I think the Knicks are using Rubio as a smokescreen and I believe Walsh wants his fingerprints on a big man and Hill is Plan C. Delfino will most likely join this franchise than the drafting of a point guard. I really get the feeling the guys that run this show don't want to pay Lee any significant dough and making plans on life without him.
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6/17/2009  1:47 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:


I highly doubt the Knicks want Thabeet even at 8. The Knicks are really running an offensive-minded system. While Thabeet has shown some signs of offense--he's probably 25th on the list of players the Knicks consider in terms of what will help their system.
They want Curry or Rubio and really I have no idea who they would want after that. I would say this draft is a Rubio Curry or bust for the Knicks--to the point where getting rid of more salary cap is a distant second place. I think they want either one of these guys and anything else may be considerably less.

I think Thabeet is a bit raw for MikeD's system, but I think every system has room for a 7'3 shotblocker that can run the floor. With pure offense generated by the other four players, the center doesn't need to do much more than clean up the boards and score off the pick and roll.

As I understand defense, it really works from the inside out. Having a strong defensive presence on the block will allow the other players to commit to their perimeter defense, rather than being worried about being beat off the dribble.

Contrast that with MikeD's offense in Phoenix requiring a strong PG. I think his ideal system doesn't really have a PG per se, but rather 5 players that can pass. I know Rubio can pass, but can he shoot? Didn't seem like that was a strength. That said, if Rubio can be a Jason Kidd, I don't know how you avoid trying to get this kid. But MikeD could make Du-doo look good for half a season, and made Nash into a two-time MVP. I think a semi-talented PG will look like an all-star with his guidance. I think I'd rather have Curry than Rubio, though. That shooting ability would be a terror in this system.

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6/17/2009  4:50 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:

i'm thinking more & more the Knicks are heavy & hard after Rubio... the fact that he didn't work out for SAC seems to suggest there's another team picking after Sactown that's gonna be trading up to the top 3 to take that kid, & we've already heard rumblings that he doesn't want to play in MEM & his agent doesn't want him in OKL... then there's the issue of his buyout, & NY would seem to fit the market for him to come to where that won't be as much of an issue... he could probably make that back easily from endorsement deals... LAC is locked on w/Griffin most likely at #1... sounds like MEM will probably take Thabeet at #2.

i'm getting the feeling that NY & OKL will be making a draft day trade for Rubio to come to NY, especially if Jordan Hill falls to #8... MIN has the assets to move up w/the #6 & #18 picks, but not the market to appease his buyout issues, so i don't get the feeling it's them... of course GS could be the wildcard here if they move up to grab Rubio at #2 by using Monta Ellis as trade bait, but they're under pressure to win now so i don't think they'd be as willing to take on a young player that they'd have to wait a couple years to blossom... i think they'd be fine w/someone like Harden at #7.

Miss Cleo has spoken.

Why would OKC not take Rubio straight up and trade him to Minn if that was their plan? I think the Knicks are using Rubio as a smokescreen and I believe Walsh wants his fingerprints on a big man and Hill is Plan C. Delfino will most likely join this franchise than the drafting of a point guard. I really get the feeling the guys that run this show don't want to pay Lee any significant dough and making plans on life without him.

like i said, the buyout issue complicates matters, as does his agent IMO... i would be more than satisfied to end up w/Jordan Hill but i have a feeling MDA is bukkake jizzing all over his system for a PG like Rubio... i think Curry is the safety valve pick if Rubio is off the board & the deal to move up falls through... my feeling is they're only working out guys like Derozan, Jennings & Evans so that they can gauge trade scenarios w/other teams on draft day.

unless we're trading up for Rubio i really would like Derozan or Hill, but i think the Knicks are looking at either taking Curry if he falls & they don't trade up, or trading down & gaining an extra pick... that's probably why they're working out guys like Lawson & Flynn, who will likely be available after the #8 pick.
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6/17/2009  5:06 PM
TMS: It sucks because this seems to be the year(in our current sitution) where we should be shotting for the stars. Go for the guy with the most upside and see what happens. We should be in position to take a guy like Derozan, Mullen or Jennings and develop them, but unfortunately with the loss of the pick for next year we almost need to play it safe. It's a Channing Frye situation, which could spell disaster.
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as usual i agree Bip... i would also say that trading up for Rubio would be a swing for the fences type move that i would be happy with as well... the safe pick would be to take Curry here... i don't think he's got disaster potential but i do think there are other guys who will be much better players than him when it's all said & done, which i guess u could say would be a disaster in our current predicament... we need bigtime stars on this team in the worst way imaginable... i think other than Griffin, only Rubio & Derozan are the 2 guys i can imagine becoming bigtime stars out of this draft... the rest are pretty much even in my eyes, so at that point it becomes a choice of preference in their style of play & our team's needs.

i ain't all that crazy about Mullens w/a high pick, i'd only take a flyer on him if we got an extra late pick somehow, otherwise i'd just rather grab Hill out of the bigmen choices... Thabeet doesn't wow me either other than his shotblocking prowess... doesn't look like he's got that fire & passion in him when i see him play... u don't need to be demonstrative to play w/fire & passion, look at Wilson Chandler... i don't really see that w/Thabeet so i'm wary of using our lottery pick on that guy.

Jennings relies on his quickness & ballhandling to get by guys & score at the basket, or likes to launch up long distance fadeaway 3's, & he's built so slight he's gonna have a real tough time guarding guys on the perimeter, so we'll be needing a very good shotblocking presence as well to account for that which we don't have... Curry brings up similar concerns... if say we had 2 high lottery picks & took both Hill AND Jennings/Curry, then it could work out very nicely, but we don't... i don't think a scoring PG is really the type of PG i want orchestrating this offense, even tho i know Steve Nash had a ton of success w/it over in Phoenix... Nash also had Amare, Marion & Joe Johnson to dish the ball to, which we don't... that means Jennings or Curry would be going 1 on 1 on a lot of possessions down the floor, which is something i'd like to try & avoid.

if we're drafting a PG, i want a guy like Rubio who's looking to setup for his teammates the whole time, but has the ability to get to the hole & draw fouls when the offense breaks down as well as play great defense on the perimeter & excels in the fastbreak... i think a guy like that would make everyone on our team want to get out on the break & run hard every minute of every game, sorta like how Jason Kidd orchestrated that offense in Jersey a few years back... i can imagine Wilson, Danilo, Al, Lee & Nate (if they're here) & even Fishlips getting so many easy baskets because of Rubio's style of game that utilizes his court vision & passing ability so effectively... & who knows, maybe playing w/a guy like Rubio would make Fishlips look so good some team out there would be fooled enough into trading for his contract? lol, on second thought, maybe i'm getting carried away here.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-17-2009 2:47 PM]
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6/17/2009  6:32 PM
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6/17/2009  9:28 PM
Posted by TMS:

as usual i agree Bip... i would also say that trading up for Rubio would be a swing for the fences type move that i would be happy with as well... the safe pick would be to take Curry here... i don't think he's got disaster potential but i do think there are other guys who will be much better players than him when it's all said & done, which i guess u could say would be a disaster in our current predicament... we need bigtime stars on this team in the worst way imaginable... i think other than Griffin, only Rubio & Derozan are the 2 guys i can imagine becoming bigtime stars out of this draft... the rest are pretty much even in my eyes, so at that point it becomes a choice of preference in their style of play & our team's needs.

i ain't all that crazy about Mullens w/a high pick, i'd only take a flyer on him if we got an extra late pick somehow, otherwise i'd just rather grab Hill out of the bigmen choices... Thabeet doesn't wow me either other than his shotblocking prowess... doesn't look like he's got that fire & passion in him when i see him play... u don't need to be demonstrative to play w/fire & passion, look at Wilson Chandler... i don't really see that w/Thabeet so i'm wary of using our lottery pick on that guy.

Jennings relies on his quickness & ballhandling to get by guys & score at the basket, or likes to launch up long distance fadeaway 3's, & he's built so slight he's gonna have a real tough time guarding guys on the perimeter, so we'll be needing a very good shotblocking presence as well to account for that which we don't have... Curry brings up similar concerns... if say we had 2 high lottery picks & took both Hill AND Jennings/Curry, then it could work out very nicely, but we don't... i don't think a scoring PG is really the type of PG i want orchestrating this offense, even tho i know Steve Nash had a ton of success w/it over in Phoenix... Nash also had Amare, Marion & Joe Johnson to dish the ball to, which we don't... that means Jennings or Curry would be going 1 on 1 on a lot of possessions down the floor, which is something i'd like to try & avoid.

if we're drafting a PG, i want a guy like Rubio who's looking to setup for his teammates the whole time, but has the ability to get to the hole & draw fouls when the offense breaks down as well as play great defense on the perimeter & excels in the fastbreak... i think a guy like that would make everyone on our team want to get out on the break & run hard every minute of every game, sorta like how Jason Kidd orchestrated that offense in Jersey a few years back... i can imagine Wilson, Danilo, Al, Lee & Nate (if they're here) & even Fishlips getting so many easy baskets because of Rubio's style of game that utilizes his court vision & passing ability so effectively... & who knows, maybe playing w/a guy like Rubio would make Fishlips look so good some team out there would be fooled enough into trading for his contract? lol, on second thought, maybe i'm getting carried away here.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-17-2009 2:47 PM]

No way in hizzell I take Mullens at our pick but would be ecstatic with trading down and getting the guy. He's got as much potential as anyone in this draft, but he has proven nothing. So he is a huuuuuuge risk. But with a second first round pick he becomes a no brainer in the teens IMO. I'm not a big Hill fan. I don't deny his talent but the fact that he played with another first rounder and a very good PG yet still struggled with a team he led, makes me nervous. I obviously like Thabeet. I don't think he has huuuuuge upside but for me he's a given. Defensively he will be a beast whether starting or not. As for the fire. He has it. It's hidden, but he has it. The guy has a will to get better and has shown that with his time at Uconn. My only fear is that he has a lot of outside responsibiliites that he's worried about. After getting to the pros does this cause him to relax and take his foot off the pedal? If you draft Jennings and he is the humble kid who took a back seat the veterans in Europe and chooses to learn the game properly from D'Antoni then he is a star. If he is the brash guy who only cares about the hype then I wouldn't want him near my team either. But he's talented, and in the right situation he is great. Curry, if he can run the point I think he's the best in the bunch right away. Especially in our system. If he can't and he turns into a combo guard then I'd rather have Nate. Rubio would be great but I don't think it's happening.

So what do I get from all this? Draft DeRozan
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6/17/2009  10:20 PM
At 6-3 and with a high BB IQ, Confidence, tested leadership, better than advertised strength, hops and speed and being a deadeye shooter, Curry to me is the guy for this team. I don't know why anyone would doubt that at this point. He's a solid passer if not spectacular and I think he'll succeed as a PG/SG for this team. No need to look down on that as if that would hurt the team. I wouldn't say it's necessary tho to move up to get him. There's just too much PG talent to pay that much to get him.

DeRozan is just so tempting, but it's kind of like Gerald Green all over again. You see the physical talent and assume that it's not that far to go... I wish I knew more about his mental makeup, cuz that's the real determining factor in whether he fulfills his promise. I just don't think it's worth the risk tho. We're building a team with the idea that we'll have cap flexibility soon that should allow us to bring in proven top tier talent. We don't have to take huge risks in this draft. There are enough near sure things in this draft that have shown great talent already.
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6/17/2009  10:28 PM
I hope they move up but I don't think they will. The talk of trading a contract like Mobley's comes up alot but never seems to work out (i.e. La Frentz). I don't think the Knicks have the assets. I think the T-Mac trade has more merit but again I hope that they do trade up. I think if the Knicks stand pat and end up with Hill, or Curry they should be happy and I would be ok with Flynn.
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Posted by nixluva:

At 6-3 and with a high BB IQ, Confidence, tested leadership, better than advertised strength, hops and speed and being a deadeye shooter, Curry to me is the guy for this team. I don't know why anyone would doubt that at this point. He's a solid passer if not spectacular and I think he'll succeed as a PG/SG for this team. No need to look down on that as if that would hurt the team. I wouldn't say it's necessary tho to move up to get him. There's just too much PG talent to pay that much to get him.

DeRozan is just so tempting, but it's kind of like Gerald Green all over again. You see the physical talent and assume that it's not that far to go... I wish I knew more about his mental makeup, cuz that's the real determining factor in whether he fulfills his promise. I just don't think it's worth the risk tho. We're building a team with the idea that we'll have cap flexibility soon that should allow us to bring in proven top tier talent. We don't have to take huge risks in this draft. There are enough near sure things in this draft that have shown great talent already.

i think the difference between Green & Derozan is Demar has already shown a maturity beyond his years by stepping up in big games last year for his team against elite college competition & outplayed bigname guys head to head down the stretch like Harden & Holiday... Green was a raw kid straight outta HS who had never had to deal w/the humbling experience of starting over in a new system getting to know new teammates in a field of much higher level competition... he got away w/using his supreme athleticism & never really had a chance to mature before he hit the NBA... i think that really hurt his development... i still think he's got time to turn his career around & wouldn't even mind signing him to a LLE type contract to take a shot on him either... but Derozan will be more ready from a maturity standpoint to play in the NBA, & there's no denying his potential... he's easily got top 3 upside in this draft IMO.

as for Curry, he's gonna be a good player right away for any team if he can handle the PG spot on a fulltime basis, but he's going to have a problem trying to command double teams & be the type of force that can take over a game for you at the NBA level cuz the guys he's gonna be going up against are just so much more athletic, have more speed & are more skilled than the ones he had to face off against in college... he's a safe pick at #8 but we need to be looking to hit the HR w/this pick, not shoot just to get on base.
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6/18/2009  6:26 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
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i really hope they move up

Rubio - Gallo - Chandler --> building blocks for the future

completely agree and think if you add someone like Chris Bosh into the mix the Knicks will be in the Eastern Conference Finals more often than not

Are you putting together a "softest possible team" scenario?

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