Reggie Evans is not a shotblocker & isn't half the athlete that Hill is.

Our biggest need is a special player at any position with star potential. It's unlikely we'll find that player in this draft, but our best chance is to trade up and draft Curry. There's no guarantees that Curry will be a star, but he showed in last years ncaa tournament that he can carry a bad team on his back and lead them to beating much better teams.

I think you trade up for Thabeet if you can and pay Ewing whatever it takes to come teach him.

I think a draft day that ends with Sergio Rodriguez at the point and Thabeet at the C will accomplish plenty for the franchise. If we don't get that, I'd like to see Stephen Curry in an MSG new conference asap. I don't think Rubio is worth trading up for, at this point. Perfect world would result in Curry and Thabeet. I would give up a tremendous amount to end up with those two at the PG and C for years to come. 2010 FA will fill in the gaps at SG SF and PF.

Posted by martin:

Posted by EwingsGlass:

I think a draft day that ends with Sergio Rodriguez at the point and Thabeet at the C will accomplish plenty for the franchise. If we don't get that, I'd like to see Stephen Curry in an MSG new conference asap. I don't think Rubio is worth trading up for, at this point. Perfect world would result in Curry and Thabeet. I would give up a tremendous amount to end up with those two at the PG and C for years to come. 2010 FA will fill in the gaps at SG SF and PF.

Andrew and I had talked about that same scenario a while back. Shooting for the moon but you gotta dream sometimes.

Stephen Curry and a project like Mullens wouldn't be a bad reality check.

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by martin:

Posted by EwingsGlass:

I think a draft day that ends with Sergio Rodriguez at the point and Thabeet at the C will accomplish plenty for the franchise. If we don't get that, I'd like to see Stephen Curry in an MSG new conference asap. I don't think Rubio is worth trading up for, at this point. Perfect world would result in Curry and Thabeet. I would give up a tremendous amount to end up with those two at the PG and C for years to come. 2010 FA will fill in the gaps at SG SF and PF.

Andrew and I had talked about that same scenario a while back. Shooting for the moon but you gotta dream sometimes.

Stephen Curry and a project like Mullens wouldn't be a bad reality check.

I hear what you are saying, but Mullens is a face the basket C... which I interpret to mean that he is soft. A purely defensive minded C that can alter the shot of anyone coming into the paint makes me excited. I am not so hyped on Mullens based on his college performance. I mean, I am not sure Thabeet has the pride and attitude of the guy I want protecting the paint, but I think he is close.

Posted by knicks1248:

Find a gap filler later...first of all to trade your proven for unproven is definitley putting yourself in front of a firing squad. I mean I would love to get thabeet and curry but that will almost certainly involve giving up lee and nate. Granteed one should go so we can get better. I'm not in the business of developing rookies then trading them once they get better for more rookies. We have no leadership whatsoever, a key reason for at least 40 pct of our loses. Watching kobe's "Doing work" A spike lee joint, showed how important a floor leader is. We need a player out of this draft who can make a difference right now.

I disagree that Nate and Lee are proven or that keeping them is the way to re-build. I think you try and maximize assets while minimizing salary cap burden. That means betting on rookie scale contracts and not overpaying for veterans. At the right price, I would keep either of Lee and/or Nate. It depends on the cost though. I know what a #2 pick Thabeet will cost for the next 5 years. Most of all, if we are talking about leadership, Curry is probably the best player and most intelligent I've listened to in this draft. That said, that would be my draft day coup, to go to sleep on June 25 knowing that Curry and Thabeet will be manning the 1 and 5 spot for the Knicks. I would build the team for 2010, not 2009. Can't bet on Lebron, but with the 1 and 5 spots filled, you have the SG, SF and PF you can fill with high quality veterans. If you put Lebron and Bosh in between Curry and Thabeet... does it really matter who plays SG? Wouldn't some ring-hungry veteran take the minimum to have that spot?

If only we can convince Mem to help a brother out (and everyone else not to take Curry)

Thabeet is to much of a risk and too much of a project.Your looking at 4 or 5 seasons before certified impact.I think we have to be a player away from contending to land a superstar.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

Posted by knicks1248:

Find a gap filler later...first of all to trade your proven for unproven is definitley putting yourself in front of a firing squad. I mean I would love to get thabeet and curry but that will almost certainly involve giving up lee and nate. Granteed one should go so we can get better. I'm not in the business of developing rookies then trading them once they get better for more rookies. We have no leadership whatsoever, a key reason for at least 40 pct of our loses. Watching kobe's "Doing work" A spike lee joint, showed how important a floor leader is. We need a player out of this draft who can make a difference right now.

I disagree that Nate and Lee are proven or that keeping them is the way to re-build. I think you try and maximize assets while minimizing salary cap burden. That means betting on rookie scale contracts and not overpaying for veterans. At the right price, I would keep either of Lee and/or Nate. It depends on the cost though. I know what a #2 pick Thabeet will cost for the next 5 years. Most of all, if we are talking about leadership, Curry is probably the best player and most intelligent I've listened to in this draft. That said, that would be my draft day coup, to go to sleep on June 25 knowing that Curry and Thabeet will be manning the 1 and 5 spot for the Knicks. I would build the team for 2010, not 2009. Can't bet on Lebron, but with the 1 and 5 spots filled, you have the SG, SF and PF you can fill with high quality veterans. If you put Lebron and Bosh in between Curry and Thabeet... does it really matter who plays SG? Wouldn't some ring-hungry veteran take the minimum to have that spot?

If only we can convince Mem to help a brother out (and everyone else not to take Curry)

I would like to contribute to this thought. I agree with what your saying 100%. Isn't the point of getting these cap down for these 2010 superstars. I have heard a lot about thabeet is too raw and a big risk, he has no offense, etc. I thought that we were trying to pick up offensive players in the 2010 fA crop. thabeet wouldnt have to be an offense threat as you would like due to the other 2010 fa commanding doubles right. Ok you say thabeet will take 4-5 years to develop ok sounds far wouldn't you want him to develop with the fa of the 2010 that we pick up. I dont understand the game plan then. I thought we were getting below the cap for superstar players not just FA's ( ill eventake allstar players for arguement sake). this draft is a last real chance a getting fundation blocks so we can just insert these superstars into the line up. Its not like the guy just got of the plane and hes in the draft cause of height. the guy played in the big east with no other players on his team. the was the defensive palyer of the year back to back years. yeah i know the same can be said about curry but at least curry has the ball in his hands by halfcourt and scored for his team to win. thabeet played without being the offense and still would score double figures in the big east. i'm really not looking for thabeet to score anyway, just guard the rim and rebound the ball scoring is a bonus. the 2010 pf can score right thats why we are paying him??? If not lets keep d lee. S Curry is great I know that and am not taking anything away from that. I think it makes more sense to build up our defense first and buy our offense later. I still say that mullins guy has bad body langauge when he plays. yeah he can step outside and hit a couple of shot but thats not what i want my center to do. guard the rim and rebound. Ill rather have thabeet and bosh/amare at the 4/5 than bosh/amare with mullins. unless you were targeting yao in that 2010 class, but I think you can get a better line up with 2 superstar or allstar players in 2010. to fill in better with thabeet than curry. If we can get both great but first if we can move up get thabeet. I would like to continue going but my boss is lurking around.

[Edited by - armondaone on 06-11-2009 3:06 PM]