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Vmart
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6/5/2009  11:19 AM
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Posted by misterearl:


You can't teach height.

Ok, earl. You can't teach height. Here are some players with good height we've picked up in recent years:
Mardy Collins
Arred Effries
Jerome James
Slavko Vranes
Macje Lampe

Apparently you can't teach them basketball either.
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6/5/2009  11:24 AM
JrZyHuStLa - they are all mysterious to some degree until they step on the floor against grown azz men
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6/5/2009  11:29 AM
Ughh, Mardy Collins. One of the biggest scrubs of all time.
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6/5/2009  11:38 AM
Vmart - cool, let's rehash the negative past

but if you want to really impress somebody, can you tell me how strong Danilo Gallinari's back will be in August?

how many games will the Knicks Summer League team win?

how many fingers am i holding up?
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6/5/2009  11:55 AM
I disagree with the idea that our mis matches ( in our favor) were at the 3 and 4 spot.As a matter of fact the Q had the most mis matches at the 2g position which at times we just didn't take advantage of enough
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6/5/2009  12:13 PM
knicks1248 - help me out here, are you really extolling the virtues of Quentin Richardson?

hold up, as of today the Knicks do not have a single matchup advantage at any position. none.

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6/5/2009  12:30 PM
Come on he was posting up smaller guards at will. And this didn't just happen in a game or 2. I'm not saying it was a glaring strength but it was effective at times
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6/5/2009  12:45 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Vmart - cool, let's rehash the negative past

but if you want to really impress somebody, can you tell me how strong Danilo Gallinari's back will be in August?

how many games will the Knicks Summer League team win?

how many fingers am i holding up?


Rehash the past no no no. I use the past as reference so mistakes are not made again.
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6/5/2009  12:47 PM
knicks1248 - hold up a minute homeslice, if you are sitting here advocating Quentin Richardson as the Knicks two guard of the future in the Mike D'Antoni quick strike system it would seem we share less in common than I thought.

Yes, we want our beloved Knicks to get incrementally better

Yes, we need young, bouncy legs who can run the other guys until their tongues are hanging out

Yes, we need lithe, quick, improvisational, versatile, multi-skilled players with excellent lateral speed

Yes, time waits for no one and neither does the 2009-10 game of basketball

Hell NO, Q Richardson is not on my short list
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6/5/2009  12:53 PM
VMart - I agree wholeheartedly with you. If you don't understand your past how can you know your future? Then again, mistakes are a part of any learning process.

Hopefully, Donnie Walsh will keep his inevitable "misses" to a minimum

Hopefully the next time a Trevor Ariza is on the Knicks roster, instead of tearing him down, the team shows patience and nourishes him.
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6/5/2009  1:06 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Just think of the upside of DeRozan in these terms

Quentin Richardson is another step further away from serious minutes

Oh happy day

One problem with a Derozan selection could be our interests in the 2010 free agent class.

I would tend to think our big targets are going to be guys that play the 2-3 position...Lebron, Wade, maybe Joe Johnson.

I'm holding out hope that Donnie finds a way to snag Thabeet....

As the finals are showing (Howard, Bynum & Gasol) SIZE still matters and when push comes to shove you need big long bodies down around the basket playing defense, taking up space and protecting the rim.
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6/5/2009  1:33 PM
Posted by misterearl:

VMart - I agree wholeheartedly with you. If you don't understand your past how can you know your future? Then again, mistakes are a part of any learning process.

Hopefully, Donnie Walsh will keep his inevitable "misses" to a minimum

Hopefully the next time a Trevor Ariza is on the Knicks roster, instead of tearing him down, the team shows patience and nourishes him.

Be honest with you I don't miss Trevor Ariza. He is a role player on a very good team. Lakers are there with or without him.
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6/5/2009  1:34 PM
Posted by misterearl:


6'3 Stephen Curry can step in and push Chris Duhon, and we all know chicks dig the long ball but...

6'3 Jrue Holiday is described as unselfish, intelligent and would be a sophomore in college. He has some growing to do but he can add a defensive accent to the backcourt but...

6'7 DeRozan is the most intriguing because of what he can be molded to do under D'Antoni. He would be positively entertaining in the open court and get The Garden crowd juiced on dunks. You had me at "Vertical is reportedly 40 inches plus". Size in the backcourt is always in style.

You can't teach height.

I think DeRozan is 6'5.'" (no shoes) with a 38" vertical. If you look at his combine results you will see that they were somewhat underwhelming in many areas.

I like him, but let's not deify his athletic ability just yet.
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6/5/2009  1:52 PM
LivingLegend - Lebron ain't coming, Wade will be too banged up (although I dig the Veriszon spots with Charles Barkley), and Joe Johnson is not the guy you want anywhere NEAR a Championship calibre team. And that is coming from someone who sees him up close in Atlanta. Joe Johnson does not understand the nuance of how to assert his game in a team context. Period. End of story.

Thabeet has narrow shoulders and will be LONG gone by the time the Knicks are on the clock, but as we all know anything can happen... I'm jus' sayin'. Bosh is a much better fit for the D'Antoni system. Go big or go home.

Palladin55 - (In my best Jim Mora voice) "combine results? COMBINE results?... are you kidding me?"

Since when did ANY professional athlete gain respect and recognition in the regular season for their steenkin' combine results?

"Don't talk to me about combine results!"

One more thing, Let's not deify anyone, ever again... forever.

Including Lebron.

[Edited by - misterearl on 06-05-2009 1:53 PM]
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6/5/2009  1:57 PM
Misterearl in no way shape or form am I indicating Q is our best option at the 2g now or ever. My point was that we didn't take advantage enough of the mismatches at the position at the time. I'm also pointing out that chandler with his size and strength can cause the same mismatches at the 2g for the time being bringing our focus more towards drafting a very good pg, knowing we have adequate help already at the 2g, making Derozan less attractive in this years draftfor us.
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6/5/2009  2:21 PM
knicks1248 - I appreciate your hindsight, I really do. But think of it this way. Last year is over.

Quentin Richardson can take a very, very, very long hike in 2009 and I would not miss him for a nanosecond.

With that said, I agree wholeheartedly with your theory on gaining advantages through tricky matchups.

Dig...

The fact The 6'8 Mayor can play some two guard is a plus no matter how you slice it. I'm down. All I'm suggesting is that if DeRozan is the choice that doesn't make him automatically redundant.

At this point I care less about slotting guys into positions, I just want basketball players.

Think of the 2011 Knicks in these optimistic (but not out of reach) terms:

Run Chandler and DeRozan together with a 4x100 relay shift line that features Gallo (fingers crossed) Chris Bosh (in 2011) and a guard who can push it real good and you can print the playoff tickets.





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6/5/2009  3:18 PM
Its good to have players that can play multiple position, but that works only during the regular season. Come playoffs match ups and balance become a major factor. Remember when we had 6 guards and 7 pfs right around the last year of jvg, we got exposed in 2k and 2k1.stock piling talent is not a good idea when your this far remove from the playoffs. That was IT's Plan and it made no sense. You have got the best pg draft in last year and this year, and we currently have a back up starting. Again I will say this, if mike's system made duhon(who is a avarage pg on any other team or system)look like a potential all star,I could only imagine what he would do to a pg with much more talent. Nash is living proof of that.
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6/5/2009  7:13 PM
knicks1248 - I have a sense you are making projections based on last seasons roster. Look ahead young man. There are only two players on the Knicks roster that I would consider 2011 material. Wilson Chandler and Danilo Gallinari.

Just those two.

Making assumptions about "stockpiling talent" do not apply in the Knicks case because the Knicks are not loaded with superior talent. There is no such thing as "stockpiling" average ballplayers.

Walsh grabs the player who he feels can compliment those two. Those 3 base players compose three parts of a five part starting equation leading into 2011. Duhon is not a long-term component just yet. He is auditioning just like everyone else.

Remember... everyone else on the Knicks roster, other than Gallinari and Chandler, is just filler.

[Edited by - misterearl on 06-05-2009 7:57 PM]
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6/5/2009  9:42 PM
Let's Review

DeMar DeRozan - stays, makes rotation, the name just rolls off your tongue, say it with me...

Wilson Chandler - stays and starts

Joe Crawford - Summer League audition for training camp invite

Eddy Curry - filler

Chris Duhon - temp

Danilo Gallinari - starter if he's healthy

Harington - temp, the next time he hangs on the rim ...

Hughes - temp, who ever heard of any Knicks player wearing zero?

Chris Hunter - Summer League audition for training camp invite

Jeffries - temp pine brother

David Lee - outta here, and I love David Lee

Richardson - gone

Nate Robinson - gone

Roberson - gone

Sene - Summer League audition for training camp invite

Sims - Summer League audition for training camp invite

Wilcox - temp for Lee's minutes until further notice



[Edited by - misterearl on 06-05-2009 9:46 PM]
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6/6/2009  7:31 AM
If you don't believe The Answer Man, hear Mike D'Antoni now and believe him later (thank you for the video Cosmic)

1 "David Lee can get a lot better"

2 "Chandler guards the post better than anybody we have", go left young man

3 "Gallinari can stay in front of guys... get Stronger. Unbelievable talent"

those 3 were the only players he talked about, other than Nate who he offered "needed to play in a team context."

You do the math
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