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JrZyHuStLa
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6/4/2009  1:10 PM
Posted by TMS:
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Posted by martin:

If I am Donnie and I had a weird, tingly, non-LB-bladder feeling near my tummy that LeBron was going to NY and Chandler was going to be slated for SG, I would go with Curry.

If not, Rubio.

that's a big reason why i think Walsh has a big hardon for Curry

Rightfully so though. Lebron will be playing the point 50% of the time if Curry is our point guard.

i just think drafting a prospect based on the slim hope that Lebron signs here is the wrong way to go about things.

I agree, but I don't think Walsh plans on drafting Curry because Lebron and the 2010 free agent market. Its more based on D'antoni's needs. A guard who can shoot the lights out, and appears to be stronger and smarter than he first appeared to be.
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6/4/2009  1:11 PM
Posted by Rookie:

At the end of the day, it's the team that scores the most points that wins. If you are a team that plays an offensive minded game, then you take the best scorer available. Between the two, Curry is the better scorer.

Not taking anything away from what Curry bring to the table. But a pure passing pg keeps everyone on the team happy and usually those players numbers usually goes up which also helps scoring.
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6/4/2009  1:11 PM
Posted by Rookie:

At the end of the day, it's the team that scores the most points that wins. If you are a team that plays an offensive minded game, then you take the best scorer available. Between the two, Curry is the better scorer.

That comment is so overrated. And its false, because Phoenix didn't win championships when they lead the league in scoring.
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6/4/2009  1:11 PM
Based on what I know of Curry and Rubio (unfortunately haven't seen Rubio play in a full game), I'd choose Rubio because I think he is a better fit right now.

The kid is only 18 years old and has already shown he can play against strong competition. From what experts (guys who have actually seen him play) say about him, his basketball IQ seems to be very good and overall there is this impression that Rubio is a coach's dream. We all keep talking about the need for defense on this roster and Rubio doesn't seem to disappoint in that area. Moreover, he is the type of player that can create for others (something we also need) and make an impact even when he is not the player taking the shot. It also doesn't hurt that Rubio is 6'4, an impressive size for a PG.

I like Curry a lot because contrary to what most think, I do believe he is a good passer and has the ability to make others better. I will be more than content if we come out of the draft with Curry. If you want to play that "LeBron coming to NY" game, you can also make the argument that drafting Curry gives us a better shot at James because LeBron handles the ball most of the time and he also happens to be friends with Curry,

However, I think if it comes down to which player is a better fit for this team right now and going forward (without thinking about LeBron), I'd have to go with Rubio. I think he is a lock to eventually become an impact player in this league and with the work ethic that he has, I'd be surprised if he didn't develop a good shot.



[Edited by - s3231 on 06-04-2009 1:13 PM]
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6/4/2009  1:12 PM
Correction: I can't say its false because the team that does score the most points does win, but what I was trying to say is that you score more points by getting stops on defense.
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6/4/2009  1:14 PM
I think the Knicks would go with Rubio but I will say Curry. I was surprised that he measured 6-3 with nearly a 36 inch vertical jump and while he is no blazer with the ball--looked like a real pro handling the rock at those combines. I think with his shooting ability he is hundreds of MILES ahead of Rubio TODAY. I think the Knicks have a hard on for Rubio however.
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6/4/2009  1:16 PM
One commentator said that Rubio might be the second coming of White Chocolate (basically a guy who could make spectacular passes but was only a so-so shooter or leader). I think Rubio is better than that, but I still like Curry. A Ray Allen type shooter at the point will make this offense hum. Rubio is going to take 2-3 years before he can really lead this team. Curry can probably start right now.
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6/4/2009  1:23 PM
I take Rubio... as I've been saying for a long time now, I wouldn't be disappointed by Curry, though I'm pretty sure Minnesota is going to take him. They took Kevin Love, which was smart, though people were skeptical about his body and what not... and Minny needs guard help. That's where I think Curry is going
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6/4/2009  1:25 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Rookie:

At the end of the day, it's the team that scores the most points that wins. If you are a team that plays an offensive minded game, then you take the best scorer available. Between the two, Curry is the better scorer.

Not taking anything away from what Curry bring to the table. But a pure passing pg keeps everyone on the team happy and usually those players numbers usually goes up which also helps scoring.

In MDA's system, if you're open...you shoot. If you're not...you make the extra pass. If he gets open, he's going to make alot of shots.
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6/4/2009  1:26 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I think the Knicks would go with Rubio but I will say Curry. I was surprised that he measured 6-3 with nearly a 36 inch vertical jump and while he is no blazer with the ball--looked like a real pro handling the rock at those combines. I think with his shooting ability he is hundreds of MILES ahead of Rubio TODAY. I think the Knicks have a hard on for Rubio however.

Alot of truth to this post.

It's a great question. I'm glad more people are opening up to Curry, I think he'd be a fantastic pick for us.
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6/4/2009  1:26 PM
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I take Rubio... as I've been saying for a long time now, I wouldn't be disappointed by Curry, though I'm pretty sure Minnesota is going to take him. They took Kevin Love, which was smart, though people were skeptical about his body and what not... and Minny needs guard help. That's where I think Curry is going

I am hoping that Minnesota feels that they need a big PG to put next to Foye or whomever they have at the SG position. Evans would fit that.
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6/4/2009  1:29 PM
Ask yourself this, if Lebron is here then who would you rather have, Curry or Rubio?
It has to be Curry. lebron is going to demand shots (edit - and the ball in his hands a lot of the time) and draw double teams. The PG will play less of a role with him on the floor. It will be a must that the PG can shoot. Lebron being able to dish it off to Curry and Gallo is DEADLY.

That said, I'd prefer Rubio without Lebron... (But it's a tough choice)

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6/4/2009  1:32 PM
Posted by earthmansurfer:

Ask yourself this, if Lebron is here then who would you rather have, Curry or Rubio?
It has to be Curry. lebron is going to demand shots and draw double teams. The PG will play less of a role with him on the floor. It will be a must that the PG can shoot. Lebron being able to dish it off to Curry and Gallo is DEADLY.

That said, I'd prefer Rubio without Lebron... (But it's a tough choice)

I think thats what it comes down to really and Martin said it earlier too.

If Donnie really does think that LeBron is coming here, then he should take Curry. If not I'd go Rubio for the lone reason that Rubio could end up being an absolute franchise player. Even though I think Curry will be a very good pro, I'm not sure he'll ever be good enough to build around the way Rubio might end up being.
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6/4/2009  1:36 PM
NBAdraft.net has Jrue Holiday going 24th in their mock.

wtf ?

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6321
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6/4/2009  1:38 PM
Posted by TheGame:

One commentator said that Rubio might be the second coming of White Chocolate (basically a guy who could make spectacular passes but was only a so-so shooter or leader). I think Rubio is better than that, but I still like Curry. A Ray Allen type shooter at the point will make this offense hum. Rubio is going to take 2-3 years before he can really lead this team. Curry can probably start right now.

Thats what i said about Rubio. I know he is an innate PG but how is his fundamental game--Is he going to be a *white chocolate* part 2 ---cant shoot and probably will be a low 40% from the field has the flair but will it mean TOs galore?

Curry does not have the innate PG skills but looks much more fundamental and straight forward. He can't make the passes Rubio makes but he might make sounder one's and should be a 45% shooter and 90 from the FT line.

You could use a strategy of sagging off Rubio and forcing him to take that line drive 3--he doesnt have the athletic ability to make up for it like a Rondo has. Thats the problem I see with Rubio--he is not a good shooter he is long but not strong and he is not an athlete like a Paul or a Williams. Atleast with Curry-you HAVE to stay with him because he will hit almost every open jump shot. he cant blow by you but when a defender is forced to play up--he can use angles like Nash does to the hoop if the pass is not there.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-04-2009 1:45 PM]
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6/4/2009  1:46 PM
Its hard to judge at this juncture, but walsh and mike have stated there intereted in a pg who's a deep threat and I'm sure curry will receive a steve nash tape to study over the summer if we select him. Rubio is not a scoring pg, if there both on the board currys the easy choice for this system.
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6/4/2009  2:12 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

Curry.

I'm sick of seeing Europeans not panning out.

right, so all american players pan out?

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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6/4/2009  2:23 PM
Rubio

With Curry as a close second
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6/4/2009  2:26 PM
Rubio.
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6/4/2009  2:30 PM
Like 'em both and we'll have to definitely move up from 8 to grab either. I just think we'll have a better chance to move up to the 4-6 range to secure Curry than we will to get the 2nd or 3rd pick to get Rubio. I'd be extremely happy with Steph Curry though. As soon as I got my head out of my ass and realized that Curry actually does have legit PG skills, he became my guy. GREAT offensive talent and he's at least average to above average in every other category (sure there's faster guys, stronger guys, more athletic guys, etc.. but when you get right down to it I really don't see any obvious deficencies with him. This kid is just a damn good basketball player. Then there's the friendship with LeBron which could play a factor with the King coming here, however remote... Curry needs to be the guy for us.
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