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5/28/2009  11:05 AM
Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.
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5/28/2009  11:10 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.
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5/28/2009  11:39 AM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.
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5/28/2009  12:34 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

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5/28/2009  1:05 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?
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5/29/2009  8:14 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?

so that he can one day tell his grandchildren he played with eddy curry?
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5/29/2009  8:43 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?

so that he can one day tell his grandchildren he played with eddy curry?

NY can sign him not for MLE but for good size 1 year contract.
Probably the money spent on him will be compensated by more tickets sold if we will snick into playoffs.
For him why not to get another 8-9 mils and some exposure to NY markets.
Can be financially interesting for both sides...


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5/29/2009  8:50 AM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?

so that he can one day tell his grandchildren he played with eddy curry?

NY can sign him not for MLE but for good size 1 year contract.
Probably the money spent on him will be compensated by more tickets sold if we will snick into playoffs.
For him why not to get another 8-9 mils and some exposure to NY markets.
Can be financially interesting for both sides...

but the downside - if we're in it for attracting fa's in '10, then having sheed for '09-'10 just costs us pt and development of guys like gallinari, chandler and any other young bigs we might bring in. shouldn’t '09-'10 be about developing the pieces that are going to team up with the '10 fa and not about plugging in 1-year players that will only take away from that development?
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5/29/2009  10:36 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?

so that he can one day tell his grandchildren he played with eddy curry?

NY can sign him not for MLE but for good size 1 year contract.
Probably the money spent on him will be compensated by more tickets sold if we will snick into playoffs.
For him why not to get another 8-9 mils and some exposure to NY markets.
Can be financially interesting for both sides...

but the downside - if we're in it for attracting fa's in '10, then having sheed for '09-'10 just costs us pt and development of guys like gallinari, chandler and any other young bigs we might bring in. shouldn’t '09-'10 be about developing the pieces that are going to team up with the '10 fa and not about plugging in 1-year players that will only take away from that development?

Why would you be taking away from anyone's development. Sheed can play PF and C far as I'm concerned Eddy may not even make into the season so now you have Sheed playing the C. The lineup may look even stronger.

Gallo/Q sf
Harrington/ pf
Wallace C
Chandler/Hughes sg
Duhon/Curry pg


I don't see anyone losing any time of development.
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5/29/2009  10:43 AM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?

so that he can one day tell his grandchildren he played with eddy curry?

NY can sign him not for MLE but for good size 1 year contract.
Probably the money spent on him will be compensated by more tickets sold if we will snick into playoffs.
For him why not to get another 8-9 mils and some exposure to NY markets.
Can be financially interesting for both sides...

but the downside - if we're in it for attracting fa's in '10, then having sheed for '09-'10 just costs us pt and development of guys like gallinari, chandler and any other young bigs we might bring in. shouldn’t '09-'10 be about developing the pieces that are going to team up with the '10 fa and not about plugging in 1-year players that will only take away from that development?

Why would you be taking away from anyone's development. Sheed can play PF and C far as I'm concerned Eddy may not even make into the season so now you have Sheed playing the C. The lineup may look even stronger.

Gallo/Q sf
Harrington/ pf
Wallace C
Chandler/Hughes sg
Duhon/Curry pg


I don't see anyone losing any time of development.

Wait! We're over the cap still! We can't offer anybody anything but the MLE this year, possibly the LLE if available.
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5/29/2009  10:53 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?

so that he can one day tell his grandchildren he played with eddy curry?

NY can sign him not for MLE but for good size 1 year contract.
Probably the money spent on him will be compensated by more tickets sold if we will snick into playoffs.
For him why not to get another 8-9 mils and some exposure to NY markets.
Can be financially interesting for both sides...

but the downside - if we're in it for attracting fa's in '10, then having sheed for '09-'10 just costs us pt and development of guys like gallinari, chandler and any other young bigs we might bring in. shouldn’t '09-'10 be about developing the pieces that are going to team up with the '10 fa and not about plugging in 1-year players that will only take away from that development?

Why would you be taking away from anyone's development. Sheed can play PF and C far as I'm concerned Eddy may not even make into the season so now you have Sheed playing the C. The lineup may look even stronger.

Gallo/Q sf
Harrington/ pf
Wallace C
Chandler/Hughes sg
Duhon/Curry pg


I don't see anyone losing any time of development.

Wait! We're over the cap still! We can't offer anybody anything but the MLE this year, possibly the LLE if available.

S&T maybe Detroit would like Lee or Nate.

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5/29/2009  11:06 AM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?

so that he can one day tell his grandchildren he played with eddy curry?

NY can sign him not for MLE but for good size 1 year contract.
Probably the money spent on him will be compensated by more tickets sold if we will snick into playoffs.
For him why not to get another 8-9 mils and some exposure to NY markets.
Can be financially interesting for both sides...

but the downside - if we're in it for attracting fa's in '10, then having sheed for '09-'10 just costs us pt and development of guys like gallinari, chandler and any other young bigs we might bring in. shouldn’t '09-'10 be about developing the pieces that are going to team up with the '10 fa and not about plugging in 1-year players that will only take away from that development?

Why would you be taking away from anyone's development. Sheed can play PF and C far as I'm concerned Eddy may not even make into the season so now you have Sheed playing the C. The lineup may look even stronger.

Gallo/Q sf
Harrington/ pf
Wallace C
Chandler/Hughes sg
Duhon/Curry pg



I don't see anyone losing any time of development.

Wait! We're over the cap still! We can't offer anybody anything but the MLE this year, possibly the LLE if available.

S&T maybe Detroit would like Lee or Nate.

jeffries is still gonna get plenty of c/pf minutes. harrington is going to get a lot of sf/pf minutes. If we re-sign dlee he'll get tons of c/pf minutes. chandler and gallo are both going to need sf and pf minutes. my priority is to get the 2 of them as many minutes as possible this season. plus we might draft a big who will need minutes. or pick up and actually want to play a young big prospect via nbdl, undrafted fa or trade. i don't want to be hooked into sheed and play him big minutes for 1 season that doesn’t really matter anyway at the potential loss of pt for the people who really need to develop on this team.

btw i hope you reply. we are getting deliciously close to send closk..



[Edited by - marv on 05-29-2009 11:08 AM]
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5/29/2009  4:05 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by martin:
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why do we suddenly want Sheed? He's old. Jacks up 3s. Has slowed down a lot. Doesn't do much to bring in more wins. Just a vet presense which we can get elsewhere, I'm sure.

Sheed isn't that bad. That whole Pistons team mailed it in once Billups was traded. Sheed has game left he needs to go where there is excitment. The Knicks will provide that. He should be a Knick he has game left can play pf and c two position that the Knicks are very weak in. He can help the Knicks with his vet savvy and what is great about sheed is he is a very willing passer almost to a fault and that plays right into the MDA system. His defense is still very good he plays the post defense and help defense is pretty good too. I would take Sheed he really would be an upgrade at the pf/c position.

Sheed said he is going to retire. If he doesn't, I don't see him going to a team that is not established.

I heard that Martin that Sheed is contemplating retirement. That is all the more reason to sign Sheed he might be willing to take on a one year deal give him the full mle.

why would he come to a team that may/may not make the playoffs and would be totally frustrating to play on versus a team like Cavs, Boston, Spurs, Lakers, etc who may have the MLE?

so that he can one day tell his grandchildren he played with eddy curry?

NY can sign him not for MLE but for good size 1 year contract.
Probably the money spent on him will be compensated by more tickets sold if we will snick into playoffs.
For him why not to get another 8-9 mils and some exposure to NY markets.
Can be financially interesting for both sides...

but the downside - if we're in it for attracting fa's in '10, then having sheed for '09-'10 just costs us pt and development of guys like gallinari, chandler and any other young bigs we might bring in. shouldn’t '09-'10 be about developing the pieces that are going to team up with the '10 fa and not about plugging in 1-year players that will only take away from that development?

Why would you be taking away from anyone's development. Sheed can play PF and C far as I'm concerned Eddy may not even make into the season so now you have Sheed playing the C. The lineup may look even stronger.

Gallo/Q sf
Harrington/ pf
Wallace C
Chandler/Hughes sg
Duhon/Curry pg



I don't see anyone losing any time of development.

Wait! We're over the cap still! We can't offer anybody anything but the MLE this year, possibly the LLE if available.

S&T maybe Detroit would like Lee or Nate.

jeffries is still gonna get plenty of c/pf minutes. harrington is going to get a lot of sf/pf minutes. If we re-sign dlee he'll get tons of c/pf minutes. chandler and gallo are both going to need sf and pf minutes. my priority is to get the 2 of them as many minutes as possible this season. plus we might draft a big who will need minutes. or pick up and actually want to play a young big prospect via nbdl, undrafted fa or trade. i don't want to be hooked into sheed and play him big minutes for 1 season that doesn’t really matter anyway at the potential loss of pt for the people who really need to develop on this team.

btw i hope you reply. we are getting deliciously close to send closk..



[Edited by - marv on 05-29-2009 11:08 AM]

The point of this send closk is... whatever it is...
If we let Lee and Nate go we can sign Sheed... Or we can SAT him...


[Edited by - arkrud on 05-29-2009 5:45 PM]
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