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Nice new piece on Jennings (might show exactly why going to Europe was good)
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EnySpree
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5/14/2009  3:53 PM
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5/14/2009  4:00 PM
If I'm not mistaken, didnt Rubio school Jennings with essentially one hand?
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5/14/2009  4:05 PM
Isn't Rubio 6'4 and Jennings 6'1? They look the same size in that slam photo.
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5/14/2009  4:06 PM
Posted by kingofelpaso:

If I'm not mistaken, didnt Rubio school Jennings with essentially one hand?

i dunno about school.....Jennings was coming off the bench at the time. anyway none of us saw the game so none of us can comment really on that matchup
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5/14/2009  4:07 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Isn't Rubio 6'4 and Jennings 6'1? They look the same size in that slam photo.

i'm pretty sure the pics were merged for print....
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5/14/2009  10:25 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Isn't Rubio 6'4 and Jennings 6'1? They look the same size in that slam photo.

i'm pretty sure the pics were merged for print....

Yeah if you looke at the picture you can tell that they aren't even standing on the same level, Jennings feet are elevated compared to Rubio's.
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5/15/2009  12:59 AM
age limits can go away with a true minor league system (and bring back the old school 10+ rounds in the draft!!!!). thats a reason why the nhl/mlb dont have the higher age limits like nfl/nba.
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5/15/2009  9:37 AM
Jennings did not qualify for college.

If he went to big time program he could have started and been the point guard on a team and took his lumps and learned also. If he had the humility to learn they he could have succeeded anywhere.

Maybe because he was not recruited into a situation and they had to cater to his whims is why he got cut down and learned from the experience. If players going into college are promised minutes and status then they are not working for it, and there for not earned. But what kid wants to go to a school not knowing if he will play or how much? WE spoil these kids early on.

He took a different path and it works for him. If schools could be tough it can also work. LEadership is earned, not given. But if a kid is bound for the NBA who is gonna tell him "NO"! Jennings got a bunch of "NO" and it made him stand up and grow!
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5/15/2009  11:00 AM
...didn't Rubio school Jennings with essentially one hand?...

Is there a Rubio thread around here? His clips are amazing. Unless I'm missing something, he's one of the few players I've seen recently that, if the Knicks suddenly reach out and ask a random fan to run their draft, I'd consider giving up serious assets to be in a position to draft. And, this year, I'd risk taking him first--a young Nash with serious hops is more valuable than Elton Brand II.

I like Jennings even though I think Curry would school him right now. I agree, he has serious upside. I'd be happy to see the Knicks draft Jennings at 8. (And I'm not sure Curry's going to hanging around at the 8th spot if he has nice workouts.)
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5/15/2009  11:03 AM
Posted by NumberTwoPencil:
a young Nash with serious hops is more valuable than Elton Brand II.

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5/15/2009  1:33 PM
I honestly don't think a minor league system is necessary.

In my opinion, the best thing the NBA could do right now is up the age limit another 2 years so that players need 3 years of college (or 3 years removed from high school) before they can enter the NBA.

I propose this for several reasons. First, it will allow these young players to further develop their skills and be more prepared for the big stage (aka the NBA). Second, think about the salary cap structure that currently exists in the NBA. When standard rookie contracts were created, it effectively took money away from the veterans and transferred is to the younger players. You essentially only have 2 seasons to judge a young player before you make an extension in an effort to keep him for the long term. Consequently, teams don't have enough time to judge how good their young talent will be and they are forced to overpay in an effort to keep them. By giving these young players more time in college though (or more playing time in Europe), you get players that are more developed and more reflective of the types of players they will ultimately be. This allows front offices across the league to better estimate their talent and probably makes the max contract more valuable than it is today.

A player's window in the NBA is short, so why give younger players so much of the pie when the veterans are more skilled and deserve more money than the young guys? The way NBA front offices value players is screwed up and it needs to be changed. David Lee is a good player and I want to keep him as much as anyone, but lets be realistic, he should not be getting $10 million a year. We might be forced to pay him somewhere in that neighborhood though because of the way the current rookie salary structure exists.

Third, from a marketing and business standpoint, it would be much better for the NBA if the consumer knows all about these prospects before they enter the NBA. For example, think about the Bird-Magic era. Before those two even entered the NBA, fans knew about them and that only got them more excited when they got to see the two go at each other again in the NBA. David Falk brings up a good example in his book about Kevin Durant. How many people would have known about Durant if he went to the NBA straight out of high school (which he did want to do at one point) instead of going to Texas for a year and becoming a national figure. Ultimately, if the fans know these players better, their will be more business for the NBA.


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5/15/2009  1:51 PM
The NCAA system is corrupt. The NBA has no proper minor league like baseball, hockey, and all major European sports do. Those players seem to assimilate fine. The NCAA system is a dinosaur and it lies to us telling us the majority of the players are student athletes when in fact they are not.

As more and more of the blue-chip talent heads for Europe where they can develop AND earn a good living the NCAA will become even more watered down that it already is.

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5/16/2009  2:08 PM
they should just go pro whenever they want, go pro at 14 if you're good enough, who cares? i dont know the point of forcing kids to do stuff they can't or don't feel like doing anyway. it is not the nba's job to try to better men, real men better themselves.
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Nice new piece on Jennings (might show exactly why going to Europe was good)

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