Posted by PresIke:

regardless of what folks feel about steph and his affect on the knicks (fans, especially), russell may be right.

he was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder this year, which is pretty serious, as that espn report had indicated.x

a professional mental health worker would not diagnose someone with something like that unless they met the proper criteria.

[Edited by - PresIke on 05-08-2009 10:59 AM]

pres, i never saw that report. you got the link?

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by Bippity10:

They can't get away with this while Bip is on the job. .

Damn, you caught me off guard with this one. laugh.

My goal is to bring laughter into the world

thanks for posting those, pres. Steph: " he told me yeah you’re a mess basically."

very telling when he talks about coming in to this season: "i was coming to dominate. I didn’t care who it was, i was coming to dominate." Kind of sums up his bball problem, doesn’t it? i'm sure the last thing that mda was looking forward to was starbury "dominating."

Most here may not want to be honest but let's face it...MDA did his share of screwing with the guy's head as well...Marbs puts up a front of being a strong non-caring individual but this just isn't the case...

almost feel bad for him watching him 'play' on the celtics. he's so washed up you couldn't be washed any more.

I wonder if anyone ever checked out Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkens, Larry Brown or Anucha Sanders for PTSD.

Russell is partially right but totally ignores Marbury's past history. The ultimate team guy defending a guy who had all alone written on his sneakers, got his coach (John Calipari) fired, had his family members reak havoc in NJ and later to a lesser extent in NY. Russell totally ignores the malformed ego of Marbury that did not allow him to be a team player, relate to teammates or win. Marbury had a horrible 07-08 and I think the damage Russell refers to was done then. His mentor/coach who gave him the run of the team turned on him and his father died. I think both of those relationships were especially important to Marbury. In addition Marbury was made to be a villian while in NY. I am not a fan of his and I am very glad to see him gone. However, the guy Isiah brought in was flawed and never made his teammates better. He never accepted a lesser role and the problems were always someone else's fault. Marbury never had a relationship with his teammates and was never a leader.

Posted by CrushAlot:

Russell is partially right but totally ignores Marbury's past history. The ultimate team guy defending a guy who had all alone written on his sneakers, got his coach (John Calipari) fired, had his family members reak havoc in NJ and later to a lesser extent in NY. Russell totally ignores the malformed ego of Marbury that did not allow him to be a team player, relate to teammates or win. Marbury had a horrible 07-08 and I think the damage Russell refers to was done then. His mentor/coach who gave him the run of the team turned on him and his father died. I think both of those relationships were especially important to Marbury. In addition Marbury was made to be a villian while in NY. I am not a fan of his and I am very glad to see him gone. However, the guy Isiah brought in was flawed and never made his teammates better. He never accepted a lesser role and the problems were always someone else's fault. Marbury never had a relationship with his teammates and was never a leader.

Im not defending him here, but how do you resort to a lesser role when - offensively- your the best player on the team. Lot people kill bury more then Layden and IT. Ewing for all he did was as selfish as anyone you want to put in the catagory, at the end of his tenure.

I don't think bury has fully recovered from the death of his farther more so then anything.

I agree with Russell. That being said, it's time to stop acting like jilted ex boyfried and move on. I am rooting for Celtics cause I want to see Marbury do well.

Posted by Knicksfan:

The correct way to see this is that both sides fudged up with the other. Only NY did the last one and now they are the bad guys. When isn't NY the bad guy anyway? Zzzzzzz

I agree with you, sir!

as true knick fans, the only emotion we can feel towards marbury is that of hatred. we must hate our enemies.

i bet you were chanting mvp for kobe this year, too.

jesus, what kind of times do we live in?

back in my day, fans had heart, fans had love and emotion towards their home club.