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21 Reasons Why Knicks Shouldn't Break Bank With David Lee
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Pharzeone
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5/4/2009  9:04 PM
Posted by King1:

I have no idea what is going to happen but Amare wont be a Knick. Pay him a max contract he is durable and a big winner

Get the fudge outta here. Florida won titles after him while they didn't do much with him as the go to guy. This guy hasn't been a winner for a very, very long time.
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5/4/2009  9:22 PM
Posted by King1:

You could have had Lee for below market if you signed him before the year and Walsh decided not to and everyone praised him for it. The Knicks were 9 games better with lee starting this year. He is a top rebounder in the game and he got 16 points a game. Please give me 5 guys that are free agents that is better than Lee. Please dont say Big baby Lee would have scored 20 a game on Salmons and Davis cant play in MDA offense.

King- Lee is not a top rebounder. Yes - he grabbed a lot of boards, but a top rebounder is a difference maker. Lee got the easy boards. He NEVER shut down a top rebounder. McDyess grabbed 16 & 22 against us - against Lee.

And if you watched the games, while Lee got plenty of #'s, he never dominated the boards & prevented the other team from getting boards.

That is the difference between an exceptional rebounder you pay for being a specialist vs. Troy Murphy.
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5/4/2009  9:29 PM
Lee will get paid by someone and what big time rebounder kept Lee off the boards? Howard the best in the business never kept him off the boards. Lee got to start this year and the team improved. If he is there next year they will make the playoffs no matter what he is going to get paid by someone a lot of money.
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5/4/2009  9:31 PM
So how do you explain Lee getting 16 points a game at a high efficiency rate. How can the league be dumb enough to almost pick him as a all star and be a finalist for the Most Improved Player. I guess we will see if MDA like Lee or not. My guess is yes he likes him
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5/4/2009  9:32 PM
Lee is one of the most overrated players in franchise history. Hopefully we can fool a team into a sign and trade and get back some valuable pieces.
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5/4/2009  9:57 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Lee is one of the most overrated players in franchise history. Hopefully we can fool a team into a sign and trade and get back some valuable pieces.

I concur
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5/4/2009  9:59 PM
you wont get a sign and trade and Lee will be with this team and when you make the playoffs next year you can bitch about Lee once we get rid of Nate things will look up
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5/4/2009  10:32 PM
Posted by King1:

Lee will be with this team
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5/4/2009  10:46 PM
Lee will get market value why dont you go sign Boozer to a max or Amare to a max that will get it done. 5/50 and what Houston got are two different worlds.
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5/4/2009  10:48 PM
i'd much rather sign Amare to a max contract than keep D Lee at market value.
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5/4/2009  10:51 PM
So if they resign Lee and make it to the playoffs and Lee is one of the leading scorers and top rebounder you will still find a reason to say Lee sucks. I think MDA is a moron for playing him 3,000 minutes and running everything through him.
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5/4/2009  10:56 PM
as soon as u can show me where i said Lee sucks i'll answer your question King.
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5/4/2009  10:59 PM
Posted by King1:

So if they resign Lee and make it to the playoffs and Lee is one of the leading scorers and top rebounder you will still find a reason to say Lee sucks. I think MDA is a moron for playing him 3,000 minutes and running everything through him.

come on now. Did MDA really have a choice out there? What are the other options... play Big Game? Curry? Run things through Jefferies? No pass Harrington?
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5/4/2009  11:22 PM
Posted by King1:

So how do you explain Lee getting 16 points a game at a high efficiency rate. How can the league be dumb enough to almost pick him as a all star and be a finalist for the Most Improved Player. I guess we will see if MDA like Lee or not. My guess is yes he likes him

See above:

6. While he is an efficient offensive player, his scoring is almost entirely predicated on assisted opportunities, with 64% of his inside shots and 75% of his jumpers (each on the very high end of the NBA).


There is something to be said that Lee has good hands, and he is agile to finish with either hand. I mean, how many times did we scream at Mason when he got the ball passed to him in the post, back to basket, unguarded and he passed out- he had no court vision.

I'm not against signing him & keeping him, but his salary should be in the $6-8mm per year range.
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5/4/2009  11:25 PM
Exactly Martin he had only Lee and no one else and trhey still improved 9 games. Next year they will have Lee signed and get rid of Nate and Chandler will shoot better and draft a big and make the playoffs.
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5/4/2009  11:26 PM
If they resign Lee gripe about MDA and Walsh it isnt Lee fault.
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5/4/2009  11:35 PM
Posted by King1:

If they resign Lee gripe about MDA and Walsh it isnt Lee fault.

Who said we are blaming Lee? Of course he'd sign a contract that he isn't worth. He isn't dumb. $10 million a year for Lee completely kills any real chance at a max free agent signing. I'm not wasting cap space to give Lee $10 million. Why? Because Lee simply isn't that good and isn't worth $10 million per year. If Lee could play defense and attempt to block shots sometimes, maybe he'd get more consideration.

This is one reason I want a shot blocker here. I am not pulling for Thabeet in this version of the Knicks, but the key to MDA's offense is the fast break. That's started with blocked shots, rebounding, and smart outlet passes. Thabeet would bring a different style of rebounding than Lee does and I think it would prove more effective in the SSOL system. Lee boards from the outside in, whereas Thabeet owns the paint. Lee is a great rebounder, but I wouldn't call him a tough rebounder and what he sacrifices in his game to get those rebounds hurts the system. I remember the more rugged Antoni McDyess completely raping Mr. Softy David Lee in their matchups. This guy is completely overrated and it really never ends. I look at every other fanbase and what they think of Lee and most don't overvalue him like you do king. They see what he brings to the table and what he brings isn't worth $10 million. It's not even worth $8 million.
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5/4/2009  11:38 PM
I will be the first one to admit I overrate him will your coach and GM overrate him also is the question.
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5/4/2009  11:41 PM
Posted by King1:

If they resign Lee gripe about MDA and Walsh it isnt Lee fault.

dude, who's blaming Lee? man, u seriously take this stuff on Lee way too personal.
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5/4/2009  11:44 PM
Posted by King1:

I will be the first one to admit I overrate him will your coach and GM overrate him also is the question.

I dont think Drew Rosenhaus can get David Lee 10 mill a yr. He needs to just sign the one year qualifying offer and improve his defensive game.
21 Reasons Why Knicks Shouldn't Break Bank With David Lee

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