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NYKBocker
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4/29/2009  11:21 AM
Nice interview. Seemed smart and humble but was sure of himself. I would not mind having him as our pick outside the top 3 pick.

I think the hard part is if we get the 3rd pick and who do you pick at that spot. Maybe trade down and get 2 first round picks.
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4/29/2009  11:33 AM
Posted by TMS:

he also said he could probably play Nash's style of game if he got quicker... anyone know how he's gonna manage to get quicker by working out & adding weight?

He also sounded quite naive when he said that. He didn't really sound convinced that he really wanted to do this. I think he would rather stay in school a year.
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4/29/2009  11:36 AM
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Believe me, Curry isn't my first choice for draft pick, but he's certainly not my last. This kid is a good player and he's a very hard worker. I have absolutely no doubts that when he says he's going to being doing work to put weight on and get faster that he most certainly will do it. That is just the type of kid he is.

I have concerns that we *guaranteed* this pick to Curry--that is my main concern. I really believe it's important to have him get into workouts with other PG type prospects like Evans Flynn Teague Calathes Lawson Maynor---there are a bunch of them and they all have different types of games and physical assets. If he goes into workouts with these guys and really holds his own or shines--you would feel better about the pick[assuming he is the pick] If he went into workouts and clearly was dominated and showed serious flaw against some of these players--well then you would have a major red flag. I don't know if he is proven enough to get a guarantee. You want to keep your options wide open.

I may just be ignorant, but what's the point of guaranteeing a pick to a prospect?
What advantage does that give you as a team?


You make a guarantee so that the prospect doesn't work out for anyone else. Isn't that how we got Chandler?

Yeah. He got "injured". The Spurs, Heat, Bulls and Suns wanted him to go in for a couple of visits.
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4/29/2009  11:58 AM
it seems to me the big difference in opinion on curry, relates to whether one believes he can play pg or not.
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4/29/2009  3:27 PM
Posted by PresIke:

it seems to me the big difference in opinion on curry, relates to whether one believes he can play pg or not.

i'm sure he can probably play the position but he's not the type of PG we would need... Steve Nash? come on, let's get real, he's not gonna be no Steve Nash... IMO he's gonna be closer to a Mike Bibby style PG than an Andre Miller, one who shoots from the perimeter & will help to spread the floor but won't be particularly good at orchestrating an offense.
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4/29/2009  3:48 PM
if you get a Bibby quality player at 8 thats pretty damn good no? Who wouldnt sign up for that? I would.

I am fine with us taking Curry so long as they do due diligence on everyone else. Its fine to be biased. No problem, but they better be ready in case someone good falls. I have giving a guy a promise before you know the whole field. If they work everyone out and still like Curry after matching him up against the other PG prospects then fine.
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4/29/2009  3:53 PM
Im sure the Knicks haven't guaranteed anything to any player yet. It would be idiotic to guarantee something you still don't have, especially with the chance they have of moving up. Curry can say whatever he wants but that doesn't mean the Knicks have talked to him.


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4/29/2009  3:57 PM
Posted by fishmike:

if you get a Bibby quality player at 8 thats pretty damn good no? Who wouldnt sign up for that? I would.

I am fine with us taking Curry so long as they do due diligence on everyone else. Its fine to be biased. No problem, but they better be ready in case someone good falls. I have giving a guy a promise before you know the whole field. If they work everyone out and still like Curry after matching him up against the other PG prospects then fine.

like i said i would have to see who else is available at #8 for me to justify taking Curry that high... if the best prospect at #8 other than Curry is someone like Teague or Maynor, then fine, i'm OK w/taking Curry... but I personally prefer taking Derozan or Jennings, & if either of those guys are still on the board i'll be pretty disappointed if we pass them up to take Curry.
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4/29/2009  4:15 PM
So basically we just started a rumor that the KNicks made a promise to curry. Based on??????
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4/29/2009  4:30 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

So basically we just started a rumor that the KNicks made a promise to curry. Based on??????

His interview. He claimed to have a gotten a promise on where he will be picked. Range from pick 6 to 20.
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4/29/2009  4:34 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by fishmike:

if you get a Bibby quality player at 8 thats pretty damn good no? Who wouldnt sign up for that? I would.

I am fine with us taking Curry so long as they do due diligence on everyone else. Its fine to be biased. No problem, but they better be ready in case someone good falls. I have giving a guy a promise before you know the whole field. If they work everyone out and still like Curry after matching him up against the other PG prospects then fine.

like i said i would have to see who else is available at #8 for me to justify taking Curry that high... if the best prospect at #8 other than Curry is someone like Teague or Maynor, then fine, i'm OK w/taking Curry... but I personally prefer taking Derozan or Jennings, & if either of those guys are still on the board i'll be pretty disappointed if we pass them up to take Curry.
why Jennings? He's been pretty bad overseas. At least Curry showed he was elite against the level of competition he faced. Derozan is a run and jump guy with a low BB IQ. could be Josh Howard, could be Deshawn Stevenson. Crap shoot to me
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4/29/2009  4:41 PM
Posted by fishmike:
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if you get a Bibby quality player at 8 thats pretty damn good no? Who wouldnt sign up for that? I would.

I am fine with us taking Curry so long as they do due diligence on everyone else. Its fine to be biased. No problem, but they better be ready in case someone good falls. I have giving a guy a promise before you know the whole field. If they work everyone out and still like Curry after matching him up against the other PG prospects then fine.

like i said i would have to see who else is available at #8 for me to justify taking Curry that high... if the best prospect at #8 other than Curry is someone like Teague or Maynor, then fine, i'm OK w/taking Curry... but I personally prefer taking Derozan or Jennings, & if either of those guys are still on the board i'll be pretty disappointed if we pass them up to take Curry.
why Jennings? He's been pretty bad overseas. At least Curry showed he was elite against the level of competition he faced. Derozan is a run and jump guy with a low BB IQ. could be Josh Howard, could be Deshawn Stevenson. Crap shoot to me

personally i think his physical tools will translate better at the NBA level... he's got elite athletic ability & he's extremely quick off the dribble... i think he'll be able to get off his shot easier than Curry will against bigger, stronger & faster competition... Curry will probably be a better player in the very beginning, but i think Jennings has that raw upside that guys like Russell Westbrook bring to the table... i would rather draft for future upside than developed skills right now, cuz we need star calibre players here, not just good role players... i think Jennings has the same kind of upside potential that Westbrook has.
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4/29/2009  4:43 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by fishmike:
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Posted by fishmike:

if you get a Bibby quality player at 8 thats pretty damn good no? Who wouldnt sign up for that? I would.

I am fine with us taking Curry so long as they do due diligence on everyone else. Its fine to be biased. No problem, but they better be ready in case someone good falls. I have giving a guy a promise before you know the whole field. If they work everyone out and still like Curry after matching him up against the other PG prospects then fine.

like i said i would have to see who else is available at #8 for me to justify taking Curry that high... if the best prospect at #8 other than Curry is someone like Teague or Maynor, then fine, i'm OK w/taking Curry... but I personally prefer taking Derozan or Jennings, & if either of those guys are still on the board i'll be pretty disappointed if we pass them up to take Curry.
why Jennings? He's been pretty bad overseas. At least Curry showed he was elite against the level of competition he faced. Derozan is a run and jump guy with a low BB IQ. could be Josh Howard, could be Deshawn Stevenson. Crap shoot to me

personally i think his physical tools will translate better at the NBA level... he's got elite athletic ability & he's extremely quick off the dribble... i think he'll be able to get off his shot easier than Curry will against bigger, stronger & faster competition... Curry will probably be a better player in the very beginning, but i think Jennings has that raw upside that guys like Russell Westbrook bring to the table... i would rather draft for future upside than developed skills right now, cuz we need star calibre players here, not just good role players... i think Jennings has the same kind of upside potential that Westbrook has.

I don't know, but it seems Curry has that IT factor that could easily translate into the NBA
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4/29/2009  4:44 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by Bippity10:

So basically we just started a rumor that the KNicks made a promise to curry. Based on??????

His interview. He claimed to have a gotten a promise on where he will be picked. Range from pick 6 to 20.

He said he thought he was being picked by the Knicks at 6. So basically, he said he could get picked at 6, and then he said "I believe the Knicks are there."

Nobody is dumb enough to give any promises at this point. Not even Isiah.
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4/29/2009  4:46 PM
if we had the 6th pick in this lottery i don't believe Curry would even be a consideration at this point.
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4/29/2009  4:48 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by fishmike:
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Posted by fishmike:

if you get a Bibby quality player at 8 thats pretty damn good no? Who wouldnt sign up for that? I would.

I am fine with us taking Curry so long as they do due diligence on everyone else. Its fine to be biased. No problem, but they better be ready in case someone good falls. I have giving a guy a promise before you know the whole field. If they work everyone out and still like Curry after matching him up against the other PG prospects then fine.

like i said i would have to see who else is available at #8 for me to justify taking Curry that high... if the best prospect at #8 other than Curry is someone like Teague or Maynor, then fine, i'm OK w/taking Curry... but I personally prefer taking Derozan or Jennings, & if either of those guys are still on the board i'll be pretty disappointed if we pass them up to take Curry.
why Jennings? He's been pretty bad overseas. At least Curry showed he was elite against the level of competition he faced. Derozan is a run and jump guy with a low BB IQ. could be Josh Howard, could be Deshawn Stevenson. Crap shoot to me

personally i think his physical tools will translate better at the NBA level... he's got elite athletic ability & he's extremely quick off the dribble... i think he'll be able to get off his shot easier than Curry will against bigger, stronger & faster competition... Curry will probably be a better player in the very beginning, but i think Jennings has that raw upside that guys like Russell Westbrook bring to the table... i would rather draft for future upside than developed skills right now, cuz we need star calibre players here, not just good role players... i think Jennings has the same kind of upside potential that Westbrook has.

I don't know, but it seems Curry has that IT factor that could easily translate into the NBA

i think his game will be able to translate but how far will his skills & ability take him is the question... i don't want no more role players, i wanna draft guys who i think can be stars bro... do u see star potential in this kid? do u think he'll be better than Ben Gordon or Mike Bibby? i don't.
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4/29/2009  5:30 PM
I can't say how good Curry will or won't be, but I do think that he's no JJ Reddick! The guy is the leader of his team and did lead them to much more success than that school had a right to. He's got NBA skills, but only lacks top tier athletic ability. Heck Bibby is a snail, can't jump and was never a really great pure point, but he was effective. I actually think Curry will have a career not unlike Bibby. 16-18 ppg and 6-8 asts.

BB IQ is more important than having freakish athletic ability. Especially at PG. Now it helps to be able to blow by your man and throw down on his head, but guys with less have been able to succeed in this league.
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4/29/2009  6:08 PM
Curry's problem will be getting separation to get his shot off at the next level...Right now he doesn't have the quickness and strength...

Walsh drafting this guy will be a second gamble in consecutive years...MDA and Walsh will be putting their cred on the line if they draft this guy...Gonna be interesting...
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4/29/2009  6:41 PM
Posted by holfresh:

Curry's problem will be getting separation to get his shot off at the next level...Right now he doesn't have the quickness and strength...

Walsh drafting this guy will be a second gamble in consecutive years...MDA and Walsh will be putting their cred on the line if they draft this guy...Gonna be interesting...

Actually, I think Curry is more of a proven quantity than an upside pick. It is clear that he can shoot and that he is would be capable of filling the hole left by the assumed departure of Nate. To pencil him into the lineup as anything other than 1st guard off the bench is the mistake. If you are expecting to draft a superstar with the 8th pick, well, there really is no sure thing.

So, if you think that he is a gamble because you expect him to turn into Steve Nash or Chris Paul, well, that is a pretty big gamble and a large risk. But, if you pick him as a viable scoring option off the bench that can fill in at pg or sg (which is still a worthwhile pick at #8 and necessary to a contending team), Curry looks more like a proven quantity. The same logic applies to Gallo, if you expect him to be the next Dirk (or even Hedo), well thats a large gamble you are making. If you need expect a draft pick to make the jump to be a Nash level player, well... maybe this isn't Walsh overreaching, maybe its "us".

There are no certain superstars in this draft. Walsh needs to fill team needs with players with some upside.
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4/29/2009  7:31 PM
Posted by TMS:

if we had the 6th pick in this lottery i don't believe Curry would even be a consideration at this point.

I don't believe you can make such a statement with any degree of certitude given the questions that surround every pick in this draft, including Griffin and Rubio.

I still lean toward DeRozan in our present slot, but I believe that Curry may have the most complete set of BB skills of any player in the draft, and if he was physically stronger, we would have no chance of picking him at the 8 slot. Along with Harden, Rubio, and perhaps Griffin, he may also has the highest BB IQs of anyone in the draft.

I started looking at him more closely when it sounded like we might be interested in him. He seems to be maturing late, somewhat like Gallinari, actually, and this is evident in the fact that he is still growing taller. Not many players are still getting taller in college- unless it is because their teams are lying about their heights (can't wait to see if B. Griffin is actually taller than 6'8").

I think there is more of a chance that Curry will improve his quickness and explosiveness with natural maturity and a good weight program than certain players will improve their overall understanding of how to play the game or others will learn how to shoot a consistent jumper.

Every player in this draft has at least one hole in their respective games, and some holes are a lot larger than others. I don't see why Curry cannot be considered as a top 6 pick, especially if he shows something in his team workouts. I think that besides his many BB skills, he also has a lot of intangibles, and he seems like the kind of kid who loves the game and will adapt to the NBA style IF he matures physically, which I expect to happen, IMO.

Don't know if we will end up drafting him, but if we do, I won't be too unhappy.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 04-29-2009 7:32 PM]
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