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4/23/2009  2:31 PM
He's just not the type of player I'm looking for. I'm sure he'll have a respectable career, but we just dont need an undersized 2 guard right now.

Way too big of a question mark. If I felt more secure with out 08 pick, perhaps I would be more willing to take a shot with Curry.
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4/23/2009  2:37 PM
if we're at 8 and we take him i'm cool with it.

i think if he plays the point, then he'll be fine.

if i were him those are the things i'd work on showing, because if he's really 6'1" you gotta play pg.
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4/23/2009  3:57 PM
I'll lose my lunch if we pick this guy
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4/23/2009  5:01 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Curry is the same height and heavier than Monta Ellis but no one says Ellis cant hold up to the rigors of the NBA. Maybe Ellis can't hold up to mopeds, but he certainly has been fine otherwise.

Ellis is also a freak athlete bro... Curry's lack of height is gonna be a huge stumbling block for him at the NBA level... he's not built solidly like a Ben Gordon to take contact driving to the hole, & he doesn't have the elite athleticism that someone like Ellis or Nate has... so what is he? a better passing version of Juan Dixon?
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4/23/2009  5:05 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'll lose my lunch if we pick this guy

so will i dude... i don't care how good of a shooter this kid is, u don't take an undersized SG w/limited athleticism that high in the draft, that's just irresponsibly stupid.
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4/23/2009  6:24 PM
If Curry ends up a Knick, he's going to start at PG. I can't think of many teams that will play him at SG.
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4/23/2009  7:27 PM
I agree with #2 Pencil...

TMS, man, you realize he was playing PG this year for Davidson and was one of the NCAA leaders in assists on a team full of crap players?

i'm not saying he's my #1 choice, but i think he's gonna be a point in the nba, and has shown to many that he has some potential in this area, even if he has played shooting guard before.

assists per game averages for guys with shot of being lotto picks who played point:

Johnny Fynn - 6.7
Ty Lawson - 6.5
Eric Maynor - 6.2
Steph Curry - 5.7
Drue Holiday - 3.7
Jeff Teague - 3.5

[Edited by - PresIke on 04-23-2009 7:28 PM]
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4/23/2009  8:52 PM
Posted by PresIke:

I agree with #2 Pencil...

TMS, man, you realize he was playing PG this year for Davidson and was one of the NCAA leaders in assists on a team full of crap players?

i'm not saying he's my #1 choice, but i think he's gonna be a point in the nba, and has shown to many that he has some potential in this area, even if he has played shooting guard before.

assists per game averages for guys with shot of being lotto picks who played point:

Johnny Fynn - 6.7
Ty Lawson - 6.5
Eric Maynor - 6.2
Steph Curry - 5.7
Drue Holiday - 3.7
Jeff Teague - 3.5

[Edited by - PresIke on 04-23-2009 7:28 PM]

i realize he put up stats in college but let's face it, he's known for his shooting... that's what he projects as at the pro level, a spot up shooter IMHO... i don't see him being no Tony Parker cuz he doesn't have nearly the quickness or ball handle that Parker has to play that style of game... i am projecting him to be a better version of Juan Dixon w/some passing ability, but he won't be a star in the NBA... just MHO... i ain't no expert so take it for what u will.
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4/23/2009  8:59 PM
I think Curry's going to need time to develop the skills he needs to run a team. Last year, he played with a great point guard (for Davidson, he led he NCAA in assists, got a two-year contract with Miami but got injured and hasn't played) so he just played SG. This year, yes, he played PG but since there was no one else on his team, he had to do a lot more than just play PG. Frequently, he had to defend whoever was the best player on the other team, regardless of position. (Check out the clips of the very close Davidson-Oklahama game. Who was guarding Blake Griffith down the stretch? Curry.) There were times when he was the only rebounder, etc. And, of course, when no one else on the Davidson team could make a layup, Curry had to score. It was not the best learning environment for becoming a PG. I suspect one of the reasons Curry decided to go pro was that if he stayed at Davidson, he'd be in the same position next year. He'll be fine once once he's clocked a year or so of PG minutes but it's going to take a while.

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4/23/2009  9:03 PM
I'd say Jeff Teague might be the next Juan Dixon, a combo guard who is almost there but not quite. It's too bad Davidson didn't play Wake this year. I think Curry would have held Teague to, oh, 10 points and dropped 30 on him. (Which doesn't say much about either of their NBA careers but, well, it would have been amusing.)
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4/24/2009  1:47 AM
i like curry way more than i like any of those guys. i was wholly unimpressed with maynor -- he hit one big shot on duke and paulus, big deal. i like lawson and johnny showtime flynn but 8 or 9 may be a bit too high for them and i'd take curry over them.

jeff teague? don't really like his game, he seemed to fade as the season went on.

i think curry is a scoring point in the mold of tony parker and steve nash. same body type, kind of a fusion game with the outside shooting of nash but slashing and stopping on a dime of parker as well. there are plenty of guys his size who "take the beating" of the nba. somebody mentioned monta, nash and parker, jason terry etc etc. guy absolutely dominated in college and as #2pencil said, he had a bunch of JVers as teammates -- davidson has never been good and presuming long island's own mckillop takes off for greener pastures will never be good again. curry would avg. 20 a game from day one running d'antoni's offense.

[Edited by - bigsm00th on 04-23-2009 10:48 PM]
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4/24/2009  2:19 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

If you guys watch Davidson play...Curry is looking to pass. He has his head up and eyes lurking...but his team is terrible. I dunno what either of Dell Curry's kids were thinking by going to small schools...both of them are good players.

Well back to the point guard play of Curry. He is actually a pass first guard. That sounds funny but its true. Him taking all those shots in college is by design cuz the rest of the team is like jared jeffies just at different heights.

Thanks for bringing me some laughter this morning. LOL, good one.

He might do quite well in this system but his lack of D has me up in arms. I would probably rather have Flynn, Jennings or any of the others at 8 (but who knows)...

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4/24/2009  2:56 AM
good point. forgot about jennings. i even like patty mills as a sleeper. lawson and flynn both would be nice. don't like maynor or teague. like evans and derozan as bigger Gs. so much backcourt depth here, make the right pick.
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4/24/2009  5:59 AM
D'Antoni doesn't give a flying poo about defense. He will take the most offensively dynamic player.
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4/24/2009  9:31 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

D'Antoni doesn't give a flying poo about defense. He will take the most offensively dynamic player.

you know this is just not true, right?
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4/24/2009  10:14 AM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by crzymdups:

D'Antoni doesn't give a flying poo about defense. He will take the most offensively dynamic player.

you know this is just not true, right?

Yea. It should read: D'Antoni doesn't give a flying poo poo about defense.
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4/24/2009  10:48 AM
The more write-ups and watch high lights about Stephen Curry the more I am liking this kid for the 8th pick. He has that IT factor that cannot be denied. I think he will be a very good PG in the NBA and is tailor made for D'Antoni.

Also, what the heck is wrong with thread title? Stephon Curry!?! You trying to jinx the kid?
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4/24/2009  11:58 AM
Just a footnote to this thread but everyone keeps saying "Curry will have a long NBA career because his dad had a long career." I think that's wrong. Stephen's style is very different from Dell's--it's more like, oh, Parker or Childs. Dell had a long career because he played sparingly and his style was fairly, um, calm. Stephen's going to be much more injury prone, IMO. In addition to his ankle injury--which he came back from quickly--this year, he played most of last year and part of this year with an iffy wrist ligament injury. Maybe he can have a Reggie Miller career if he plays SG on the right team but I doubt it. A few years in the NBA will slow him down and he's not that quick right now. Just something to keep in mind.
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4/24/2009  12:11 PM


Curry played for freaking Davidson! look at their conference and quality of bigs they played. He had a few big games in the spotlight but comapring him to Parker or Nash is way premature. Nash asset when young was his crazy motor and quickness. HE blossomed as two time MVP with the right system and players. Parker is a real 6-4, plays bigger and was, and still is a great slasher in the paint!

Im not hating on Curry at all, but he is a late 1st rounder. Late picks go to better teams, so it might help him to have strong support.

How about an early comp to Nick Van Excel? Curry is not as quick.

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4/24/2009  12:23 PM
...long island's own mckillop takes off for greener pastures...

Nope. McKillop's going to retire at Davidson. He just signed a sweet contract and, hey, it's not that hard to win 20 games every other year in the Southern Conference. Will Davidson ever make it to the top 20 again? Nah.

That said, McKillop's a great coach, a JvG of mid-major college ball, IMO. But he's working with a very different set of variables than most coaches. In short, he focuses his program around having very smart but marginal players for four years, knowing that a very disciplined set of role players playing a near perfect game will beat a certain number of much more talented teams. IIRC, this year's team had three walks ons. Davidson attracts half the talent of, say, South Alabama or even, oh, your random Ivy league school. (This year's class includes the only recent recruit I can think of who was coveted by other teams, Jake Cohen, a top 50 center out of PA.) Most of their players were the second option on okay HS teams and a lot of their foreign players, say, Andrew Lovedale, barely played HS ball. McKillop assumes that, over four years, he can turn smart, highly motivated kids, into cogs into a working basketball machine. McKillop, like JvG, is a film and scouting freak. If you watched Davidson this year you saw them do seemingly weird stuff, like juggle their line up on every other possession and put barely used bench players in the game to run unique plays, etc. They were one of the best prepared college teams all year. And they did less of that this year than in previous years, just because they could lean on Curry.
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