Posted by sebstar:

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by TMS:

sebstar, i'm always cool w/u but i dunno why u'r bringing up the "good luck he's not black" argument when some of those idiots pull this stuff... don't u think Kermit Washington sucker punching Rudy T was just as heinous as anything any of those non-black dudes are doing in these clips if not moreso, or Mike Tyson biting off Holyfield's ear for that matter? come on bro... let's leave the race card outta this... these are just idiot athletes that haven't learned how to control their tempers period.

I brought up race when it came to Romanoski...who was wild and out of control, yet was rarely called "thug" or was attacked by the media until he damn near killed somebody.

Same goes for Hockey...Media and fans love to hurl invective at the NBA and its players, yet continually give the barbaric sport Hockey almost a complete pass.

Complete double standards suck. Not my fault.

I stand behind those comments. The other comments had no racial connotation

The problem with black man and hockey is not race - it's about cold temperature on the ring.
And man had to fight face to face to be a man, not suc-hit simebody.

Are you really this dumb??

Are you really so serious?
Oh well, I forget that this is America, with this special sence of humor.
When somebody sleep and fall its funny, but when somebody has more sofisticated joke, its racism.

Posted by BasketballJones:

I think we need to give basketball players helmets.... And maybe some padding. Oh heck, let's give them skates and put 'em in an ice rink while we're at it. Might make the slam dunks a bit difficult. I have seen guys playing basketball on roller skates though.

Posted by Nalod:

SebbyX was trying to be funny. SebbyX is the "Stehpan A." of UK.

Sebby, I'd have to say your "slant" this time just went a bit off center.

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by TMS:

sebstar, i'm always cool w/u but i dunno why u'r bringing up the "good luck he's not black" argument when some of those idiots pull this stuff... don't u think Kermit Washington sucker punching Rudy T was just as heinous as anything any of those non-black dudes are doing in these clips if not moreso, or Mike Tyson biting off Holyfield's ear for that matter? come on bro... let's leave the race card outta this... these are just idiot athletes that haven't learned how to control their tempers period.

I brought up race when it came to Romanoski...who was wild and out of control, yet was rarely called "thug" or was attacked by the media until he damn near killed somebody.

Same goes for Hockey...Media and fans love to hurl invective at the NBA and its players, yet continually give the barbaric sport Hockey almost a complete pass.

Complete double standards suck. Not my fault.

I stand behind those comments. The other comments had no racial connotation

The problem with black man and hockey is not race - it's about cold temperature on the ring.
And man had to fight face to face to be a man, not suc-hit simebody.

Are you really this dumb??

Are you really so serious?
Oh well, I forget that this is America, with this special sence of humor.
When somebody sleep and fall its funny, but when somebody has more sofisticated joke, its racism.

You're probably not racist, you're just an idiot. Well perhaps it is the same thing.

Have you put together even one readable sentence since you've been here?

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by TMS:

sebstar, i'm always cool w/u but i dunno why u'r bringing up the "good luck he's not black" argument when some of those idiots pull this stuff... don't u think Kermit Washington sucker punching Rudy T was just as heinous as anything any of those non-black dudes are doing in these clips if not moreso, or Mike Tyson biting off Holyfield's ear for that matter? come on bro... let's leave the race card outta this... these are just idiot athletes that haven't learned how to control their tempers period.

I brought up race when it came to Romanoski...who was wild and out of control, yet was rarely called "thug" or was attacked by the media until he damn near killed somebody.

Same goes for Hockey...Media and fans love to hurl invective at the NBA and its players, yet continually give the barbaric sport Hockey almost a complete pass.

Complete double standards suck. Not my fault.

I stand behind those comments. The other comments had no racial connotation

i u also said that Rudy T knows better now than to run up on a guy that way, as if he did anything to deserve that completely cowardly punch that Washington threw that nearly ended another man's life in that clip... shouldn't the disdain be placed on the guy throwing the punch rather than on the guy receiving it? i know u not trying to throw double standards here... i agree w/u complete double standards do suck... but sometimes they get thrown out there by us w/o even realizing it.

I think there is a double standard here in an of itself. What was so cowardly about the punch? Rudy was running at him full speed during a heated altercation. Kermit squared up and punched him straight up, face-to-face. It wasnt a sucker punch or behind his back.

The consequences were horrendous. That sucks. And as a result Kermit was essentially black balled for what was at worst a regrettable split-second decision. The worst thing about the incident was the fact that the shot was picture perfect, but I dont agree with the demonetization of Kermit at all and I definitely have my questions as to why that is.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by Nalod:

SebbyX was trying to be funny. SebbyX is the "Stehpan A." of UK.

Sebby, I'd have to say your "slant" this time just went a bit off center.

I love how you've made it a habit to come into threads taking these weak jabs at me and then subsequently run out without saying anything of further consequence.

If I'm the "militant black man" or whatever nonsensical label you want to prescribe to me, because I dare have an opinion that cuts across the grain of your middle-American inspired minutia, then I say you are definitely the coward of UK. At least others will defend their position and actually engage in a convo.

Posted by Bippity10:

Sebstar: Having a tough day buddy .I have to admit that I think injecting race into the original thread seems a little odd and out of no where. When I was reading your thread I immediately thought you must be having a "bad white person day". I'm not sure why race came up.

But now that race has been injected, I do agree with Sebstar on this. It's always amazed me how a couple guys like Carmelo and nate can throw a couple sissy punches at each other and the world is ready to change the rules of basketball. Carmelo is called a thug. Nate is called a punk. Meanwhile every night some hockey player gets into a fight for no reason and we hail their toughness. I do think there is a double standard in how NBa players are viewed as thugs while hockey players are viewed as tough guys. I'll keep it benign and not bring up race, and ask someone to explain what the difference is.

As for the Rudy Tomjanovich thing, Sebbie baby, how do you defend this?

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by arkrud:

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Posted by TMS:

sebstar, i'm always cool w/u but i dunno why u'r bringing up the "good luck he's not black" argument when some of those idiots pull this stuff... don't u think Kermit Washington sucker punching Rudy T was just as heinous as anything any of those non-black dudes are doing in these clips if not moreso, or Mike Tyson biting off Holyfield's ear for that matter? come on bro... let's leave the race card outta this... these are just idiot athletes that haven't learned how to control their tempers period.

I brought up race when it came to Romanoski...who was wild and out of control, yet was rarely called "thug" or was attacked by the media until he damn near killed somebody.

Same goes for Hockey...Media and fans love to hurl invective at the NBA and its players, yet continually give the barbaric sport Hockey almost a complete pass.

Complete double standards suck. Not my fault.

I stand behind those comments. The other comments had no racial connotation

The problem with black man and hockey is not race - it's about cold temperature on the ring.
And man had to fight face to face to be a man, not suc-hit simebody.

Are you really this dumb??

Are you really so serious?
Oh well, I forget that this is America, with this special sence of humor.
When somebody sleep and fall its funny, but when somebody has more sofisticated joke, its racism.

Arkrud: I think you would be taken more seriously if you ever cared to explain your "white players work harder than black players" comment. I don't tell me it was a joke. Your history precedes you.

I said "white bbal players HAD to work harder" because of their physical deficiencies. Long white dudes are not the best athletes in the world.
And if you think people are created equal - you are 100% right but it is nothing to do with their physical ability but more with the right to be happy.
Taking words out of context is not a fair game.

Couple things:

Number 1: You were not taken out of context

Number 2: "white players HAD to work harder" is also a fallacy. Like the 4 minute mile, the more David Lee's, Chris Anderson's, Dirk Nowitski's, Chase Budinger's and BJ Mullen's of the world show that this is a fallacy and not reality, the more white athletes will steer away from hockey and volleyball and enter the world of basketball. It's also a simplistic argument. Do you think that Travis Knight had to work harder on his game to make it to the NBA then guys like Nate Robinson, Chris Paul, Isiah thomas, Spud Webb etc. There are more white hockey players is this the result of an inherent skating advantage or societal influences?