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4/21/2009  9:45 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

everything is falling into plan.

knicks will get the #2 pick and take rubio.

stern has hired the best script writers in the biz...

You said this last year with Beasely/Rose last year though
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4/21/2009  9:50 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

everything is falling into plan.

knicks will get the #2 pick and take rubio.

stern has hired the best script writers in the biz...

You said this last year with Beasely/Rose last year though

i had the plan correct - just was off on the details.

why was d'antoni ONLY allowed to chicago or ny? stern wants to revive those 2 franchises. the winner of the d'antoni sweepstakes got the coach, the loser had to settle for winning the lotto.

but this year, with the knicks having no pick in 2010...all this talk about "point guards" from d'antoni...the fix is in. i would be shocked if the knicks don't end up with a top 3 pick. even more shocked if it's not top 2.
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4/21/2009  9:53 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

everything is falling into plan.

knicks will get the #2 pick and take rubio.

stern has hired the best script writers in the biz...

You said this last year with Beasely/Rose last year though

i had the plan correct - just was off on the details.

why was d'antoni ONLY allowed to chicago or ny? stern wants to revive those 2 franchises. the winner of the d'antoni sweepstakes got the coach, the loser had to settle for winning the lotto.

but this year, with the knicks having no pick in 2010...all this talk about "point guards" from d'antoni...the fix is in. i would be shocked if the knicks don't end up with a top 3 pick. even more shocked if it's not top 2.

I honestly hope you're right DJ. Man that would be awesome.
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4/21/2009  9:57 AM
Posted by MS:

Well then the knicks should be primed to take the kid if the buyout is in play. A team isn't going to spend 10 million on a question mark.

unless you're the knicks, and as desperate as they are to get players. he might cost 10 mil, but from the knicks perspective it's the cap that matters.

of course, teams would likely try to negotiate it down.

it's funny, in soccer/football folks would call it a "transfer fee" and mega players get transferred for huge sums of money (tens of millions of dollars/euros easy).

i wonder if the nba should consider allow teams to loan out players like international soccer too. it could be an interesting way to get around the cap for teams over the cap, and help other teams deal with financial problems with highly paid players they can't afford. so, maybe something like, i'll lend you X player for 2 years, if I get to take their contract off of my cap for that period of time, and you pay me a transfer/loan fee. this would certainly help richer teams operate above the cap better, because say loaned players fall under some kind of "bird rights" thing where you can get a player this way without having it count against the cap.

just a thought.
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4/21/2009  10:01 AM
is top 3 this year gonna be good enough?

i think we'd have to end up in the top 2 or we'd have to make a deal, perhaps, depending on who ends up at 2.

best case scenario might be knicks end up at 3, with a team like the thunder (with westbrook, already) at 2. even though the clippers have baron, you might think they would take rubio at 2 anyway.
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4/21/2009  10:08 AM
here's how the Knicks land Rubio with the 8th pick.

buyout - Knicks can contribute 500k. Remainder comes from inevitable endorsements Rubio would land. Plus, the Knicks promise to play pre-season exhibition game in Spain.

drafting 8th for a guy ranked # 2 - Rubio, sparked by his friendship with Carlos Cabezas & Danilo Gallinari & the alure of NYC & the opportunity to play with a Euro-friendly & point guard friendly coach in D'Antoni, tells NBA teams he'll only play for the Knicks, or he'll stay in Spain....Rubio will be sure to make up incremental $ he loses by getting drafted 8th with endorsements
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4/21/2009  10:46 AM
If we have to move DLEE to get the kid I say do it. Again this team sucks and right now we don't have much of a future. If we can do it without giving up Lee that's still a decent core of cost effective talent. If we aren't resigning Nate this summer I am a little upset that walsh didn't send him to the Kings with Jefferies for Kenny Thomas. We are going to need that cap room.

This is still a tremendous long shot. When was the last time anything positive happend to this franchise. They **** up the draft just about every year, the pass on good talent Granger/Bynum for Frye, Rondo/Lowry for Balkman, make the two of the worst trades in NBA history Marbury and Curry, have two terrible GMs in Layden/Isiah, and draft a kid that is a question mark this season. It's about time we had a little luck.
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4/21/2009  11:03 AM
Like Yao Ming 6 years ago--unless the Knicks get pick 1 or 2 you can wipe this guys name of of the list. No team is going to be intimidated by a threat by any player. The last time that happened was Kobe and it won't happen again. If the Knicks want this player--the only way to get him is by sure fire luck--no other way.

And let me add to that if you get pick 1 you take Griffin--and it's a no brainer lock. I don't think Donnie Walsh would go against the grain there. You have a Karl Malone type athlete sitting at 1 you don't have to think about it.

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4/21/2009  12:13 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Like Yao Ming 6 years ago--unless the Knicks get pick 1 or 2 you can wipe this guys name of of the list. No team is going to be intimidated by a threat by any player. The last time that happened was Kobe and it won't happen again. If the Knicks want this player--the only way to get him is by sure fire luck--no other way.

And let me add to that if you get pick 1 you take Griffin--and it's a no brainer lock. I don't think Donnie Walsh would go against the grain there. You have a Karl Malone type athlete sitting at 1 you don't have to think about it.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 04-21-2009 11:05 AM]

Thank God there are other ways, like draft day trades or agreements that take place once the re-signing period begins. Don't over-dramatize the situation. If the Knicks want Rubio so badly they could make many trades to make it happen, either on draft night or when you can resign and trade players.

But yeah, it would be pretty easy if we just got a top #2 pick. And we are due for some positive things.


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4/21/2009  12:26 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

everything is falling into plan.

knicks will get the #2 pick and take rubio.

stern has hired the best script writers in the biz...

You said this last year with Beasely/Rose last year though

i had the plan correct - just was off on the details.

why was d'antoni ONLY allowed to chicago or ny? stern wants to revive those 2 franchises. the winner of the d'antoni sweepstakes got the coach, the loser had to settle for winning the lotto.

but this year, with the knicks having no pick in 2010...all this talk about "point guards" from d'antoni...the fix is in. i would be shocked if the knicks don't end up with a top 3 pick. even more shocked if it's not top 2.

I honestly hope you're right DJ. Man that would be awesome.

That would be the greatest story ever told...

Makes tons of sense too...here's hoping the Knicks can catch a break. Rubio would be an awesome prize.

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4/21/2009  12:32 PM
Anybody peep nbadraft.net comparing Rubio to Clyde Frazier?

Now before you spazz out....his game is kinda similiar. He's always going behind the back and throwing rainbow passes over and around defenders. He dribbles standing up...and the kid plays good defense.

Man its gonna be one hell of an off season.
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4/21/2009  12:42 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Anybody peep nbadraft.net comparing Rubio to Clyde Frazier?

Now before you spazz out....his game is kinda similiar. He's always going behind the back and throwing rainbow passes over and around defenders. He dribbles standing up...and the kid plays good defense.

Man its gonna be one hell of an off season.

NBA Comparison: Walt Frazier/Steve Nash
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Strengths: The problem with Ricky Rubio is: Where to start? He has more skill than anyone in his worldwide age group. Including but not limited to: Defense, anticipation, intelligence, ball handling, PG (vision) creation, rhythm, coordination, ambition, scoring and personality He is practically ambidextrous, has good foot speed (not great) and excellent body control With excellent use of speed/ direction changes he excels both on the open court and the half court game as a set up or assist man Catch and shoot is quick and clean A smart rebounder, he gets optimum position under both boards Voted the best Euro young player for 2007, he has only acceptable shooting %s both from 2 and 3 points. His shooting delivery is consistent with no waste of time or extra movement. Ive thought about it a lot and think the best comparison to past-present NBA players would be the best of both Walt Clyde Frazier and Steve Nash At 17 years old he is already a feared and well respected ACB and Euro-level competitor. He is a warrior and plays all out, all the time. On top of that knows how to flop (with this kid its an art form) Hes also a master at getting to the FT line, where he knocs down a high rate (80%) Adventurous in his passing, he has two skills; Seeing and when necessary, creation of passing lanes. Excellent. Statistically he is a gem and he has personality. He leads. He knows how to win He will become a household name in many more households.

Weaknesses: His outside shooting needs to continue to improve Maturity will bring the necessary leg strength and stability to shoot with better consistency His ratio of Assists/ Turnovers needs improvement, time and experience being the only necessary elements required. Related to this: His youthful inexperience sometimes gets him caught out of control when competing with physically stronger men at the highest Euro level He is thin but will fill out as his frame is good.
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4/21/2009  2:16 PM
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BADALONA, Spain (AP)—Spanish basketball prospect Ricky Rubio has decided to enter June’s NBA Draft, according to Spanish reports on Tuesday.

The 18-year-old Rubio, who is under contract with Spanish club DKV Joventut through 2011, has been rated as one of the top picks for the June 25 draft.

Rubio, who was a member of Spain’s silver medal-winning team at the Beijing Olympics last summer, has until Sunday to register, although he can also withdraw up to 10 days before the draft at New York’s Madison Square Garden.

The 6-foot-2 point guard, whose buy-out clause with Joventut is $7.8 million, has averaged 9.9 points and 5.7 assists this season for the club. Rubio turns 19 in October, meeting the NBA’s age requirement.


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4/21/2009  2:40 PM
Stern wasnt shy about practically handing the Lakers the chip when the Grizz delivered Gasol on a silver platter...well, now its our turn.

Rubio looks like he will be really fun to watch for the next 10 years. Cant wait. I'm sold.

PG Rubio
SG Chandler
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PF Bosh
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4/21/2009  3:22 PM
if we gave up Gallo & 2 future 1st round picks i'm pretty sure we could get a Gasol calibre player in a trade too... that is unless Isiah's the one negotiating the deal, in which case we'll end up w/a Dinglebury or Eddy Curry.
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4/21/2009  3:56 PM
Posted by TMS:

if we gave up Gallo & 2 future 1st round picks i'm pretty sure we could get a Gasol calibre player in a trade too... that is unless Isiah's the one negotiating the deal, in which case we'll end up w/a Dinglebury or Eddy Curry.

No way.

First round picks from the Lakers = trash. Plus, Grizz gave up their 2nd round picks so its practically a wash.

Critterton is a mid-level prospect at best. Gallo >>>>>>>>>> Critterton based on potential.

LOL @ Kwame Brown.

Gasol is an elite level player in his prime. What a pathetic trade.

The Knicks need to get in on some of this. We're due.
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4/21/2009  4:08 PM
The Knicks trade our two second round picks (practically equal to Laker first round picks)

Ronaldo Balkman (if we still had him, he's equal to Critterton) and Marty Collins. And Q-Brick (worthless player but an expiring contract = Kwame Brown, although Richardson is ten times the player that Kwame is)

to the Denver Nuggets for Carmelo Anthony. And we get draft picks back for good measure!


That how ridiculous of a trade Gasol to the Lakers was.
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4/21/2009  5:25 PM
Not for nothing.....**** pau gasol dude!!!

I don't know about you guys butI want to beat kobe, pau, and bynum....I wanna beat dwayne wade and his "this is my house" bull****....I wanna beat kg, pp, and ray.....I wanna go to war against lebron. Let his punk ass stay in clevland!!!

Someone already posted this but the Knicks have a few of their own pieces like chandler, gallo...say they get rubio....sign a guy in limbo like Bosh(maybe this year via sign and trade for lee)....I mean the pieces could fall into place nicely. By 2010, the Knicks could lead the charge for the next decade forming rivalries.

Remember that? Rivalries? Fuck bird and magic.....I'm talking bulls and pistons, knicks and bulls, knicks and indiana, knicks and miami....

Lets compete with them and do it our way, not waiting for a savior.

Here's rooting for another piece...rubio would be awesome but whoever falls to us needs to be awesome.
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Posted by EnySpree:

Not for nothing.....**** pau gasol dude!!!

I don't know about you guys butI want to beat kobe, pau, and bynum....I wanna beat dwayne wade and his "this is my house" bull****....I wanna beat kg, pp, and ray.....I wanna go to war against lebron. Let his punk ass stay in clevland!!!

Someone already posted this but the Knicks have a few of their own pieces like chandler, gallo...say they get rubio....sign a guy in limbo like Bosh(maybe this year via sign and trade for lee)....I mean the pieces could fall into place nicely. By 2010, the Knicks could lead the charge for the next decade forming rivalries.

Remember that? Rivalries? Fuck bird and magic.....I'm talking bulls and pistons, knicks and bulls, knicks and indiana, knicks and miami....

Lets compete with them and do it our way, not waiting for a savior.

Here's rooting for another piece...rubio would be awesome but whoever falls to us needs to be awesome.

I get the spirit of this post. As a Yankee fan I've grown disillusioned with the squad just grabbing the biggest free agent year- after-year during this decade. Growing with a team like the 90s is far more fun and rewarding.

That said, I dont see many Laker fans complaining now. And for all intents and purposes your plan is predicated on signing a big name free agent. So...

LEBRON, FTW!
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4/21/2009  6:04 PM
Ask yourself--if you were a person in charge of basketball company--our team lost 63 games --the fan base is upset and you are lucky enough to get pick 2 in the draft and their is a consensus type player there --would you be intimidated to not pick that player under any circumstance? NO

If Ricky Rubio is what some people think he is than he is already better than any knick or combination of knicks--so there is only one way to get this player---fall into slot 2--anything else and it likely wont happen--with a slight chance at 3 or a crazy move from 1.

The NY Knicks are NOT getting Ricky Rubio from slot 8--we have a better chance to get Lebron James unless the lotto balls dictate otherwise.
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