Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Panos:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Keep everybody and let Coach D and his staff prove to world that they are the best coaches in the league. Put the pressure on the coaching staff like they want the pressure on the players. If you're the best shouldn't you want to try and prove it?

This makes absolutely no sense. What difference does it make if you are the best coach if you don't have a single player that is even top 5 at his position? He's a coach, not a magician.

Maybe that's the problem. There is no pride on the team. Everything in life shouldn't have to be perfect for one to succeed. Sometime progress can be shown by getting the most of what you have. My question is did we really do that this year? If it was me, I would want to show the world that I am more than an empty suit coaching a bunch of all-stars. Man, it used to be that coaches better players not it seems that players better coaches.

Posted by MS:

Let's say the Thunder get the second pick in the draft and Rubio is a possiblity. Would you do Lee plus our pick for him in a sign and trade.

This deal isn't terrible if Lee wants 9 million. But Rubio, Chandler, Gallo enough of a foundation?

It's so hard to gauge Lee's actual value in this league since we don't win. Nate is a take it or leave it player I like what he brings off the bench.

I think the Spurs would be a team to do a deal with in the offseason if we really want to blow things up> You could add veteran leadership if you want to get rid of Harrington in a deal for Kurt Thomas and Bruce Bowen. I don't love the deal but Harrington is too selfish and since we don't have a pick I would rather see youth with actual veterans.

No because Rubio isn't Magic Johnson. Rubio is a nice prospect but hasn't done anything in his career that screams that he can come in and instantly make a team better right away. If he has to be develop like any other guard then you don't make that deal.

Year League Team GP Min Pts FG FGA FG% 2Pt 2PtA 2P% 3Pt 3PtA 3P% FTM FTA FT% Off Def TOT Asts Stls Blks TOs PFs
2005/06 ACB DKV Joventut 10 8.0 12.5 3.5 7.5 46.7 2.0 5.5 36.4 1.5 2.0 75.0 4.0 7.0 57.1 2.5 3.5 6.0 4.5 4.5 0.5 5.0 9.5
2006/07 EURO DKV Joventut 16 18.9 7.7 2.1 6.1 34.8 1.7 3.7 46.4 0.4 2.4 16.7 3.0 4.0 76.7 2.0 3.0 5.0 5.8 6.8 0.1 4.0 5.0
2006/07 ACB DKV Joventut 33 19.0 10.1 2.9 7.1 40.2 1.9 3.6 51.8 1.0 3.6 28.6 3.1 4.8 65.3 2.1 3.6 5.7 4.8 4.8 0.0 2.7 5.7
2007/08 EUROCUP DKV Joventut 16 20.9 14.6 5.1 9.7 53.1 4.1 6.7 60.7 1.1 3.0 36.0 3.2 4.2 77.1 1.3 5.1 6.4 8.6 4.5 0.1 4.9 5.0
2007/08 ACB DKV Joventut 34 23.0 18.3 4.8 12.8 37.5 3.3 7.6 43.0 1.5 5.2 29.4 7.0 8.7 80.0 1.7 3.8 5.5 7.0 3.8 0.0 3.6 4.5
2008/09 EURO DKV Joventut 5 13.2 7.3 1.8 6.1 30.0 1.2 4.2 28.6 0.6 1.8 33.3 3.0 4.8 62.5 1.8 5.5 7.3 8.5 5.5 0.0 7.3 4.2
2008/09 ACB DKV Joventut 18 21.0 18.6 5.2 12.1 43.0 3.2 7.9 40.0 2.0 4.1 48.7 6.2 7.9 78.7 1.3 3.0 4.3 10.8 3.6 0.1 4.9 4.1

His career shooting and FT percentages are just putrid. His assist to turnover ratio isn't that great either. Don't fool yourself he is a project player at the point position. I wouldn't go crazy making deals to move up to get him. He is a very good defender though. If the Knicks get the 2nd pick then ok but I would still hope the team brings in other lottery talent point guards and have a serious competition in seeing just how effectively they can run an offense.