Briggs no way you can project his play in college ball! This kid (at 19 years) has already some years of experience playing ball on a high level (Spanish ball is quiet good!) against adult competition.
If you would have watched him play for Spain at the Olympics you would have seen what is so special about this kid! He is a game changer from the PG position like a CP3 or Nash. He takes over games with his passing and court view plus he is a good defender!
His shooting is something he has to work on (at his age nothing special) but he shows that he can hit big shots already and more importantly set his teammates up for EASY layups!
I would chose him to run the Knicks ANY day!!!
Like Fish suggested at least watch some vids before you bash the kid. No offense intended, but your comment just sounded like you simply read his stats.
As a last note, I dont think we will be in position to get him, cause NO doubt hell be selected Nr.2!

If you go by shooting, there's no player in the lottery who is worthwhile.

Who's the last lottery player who had prototypical size who could shoot when he was drafted?

Not LeBron, Not Kobe, Not Wade.

I mean, like, I don't think that Rubio is 20 times better right now, but potentially, yea, he could be 20 times better. At least 1.5 times better. He's just so fun to watch and crafty with the rock!

Posted by DarkKnicks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSBLKrZCkeU

Best video on youtube about him.

Oh no, here we go with the youtube scouting. Every player looks good on youtube highlights. For example.



I rather take his play in the Olympics but even that's not a great indicator. Hell Carlos Delfino looked good over there.

Posted by dodger78:

Briggs no way you can project his play in college ball! This kid (at 19 years) has already some years of experience playing ball on a high level (Spanish ball is quiet good!) against adult competition.
If you would have watched him play for Spain at the Olympics you would have seen what is so special about this kid! He is a game changer from the PG position like a CP3 or Nash. He takes over games with his passing and court view plus he is a good defender!
His shooting is something he has to work on (at his age nothing special) but he shows that he can hit big shots already and more importantly set his teammates up for EASY layups!
I would chose him to run the Knicks ANY day!!!
Like Fish suggested at least watch some vids before you bash the kid. No offense intended, but your comment just sounded like you simply read his stats.
As a last note, I dont think we will be in position to get him, cause NO doubt hell be selected Nr.2!

So was Darko the cant miss european KG

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by dodger78:

Briggs no way you can project his play in college ball! This kid (at 19 years) has already some years of experience playing ball on a high level (Spanish ball is quiet good!) against adult competition.
If you would have watched him play for Spain at the Olympics you would have seen what is so special about this kid! He is a game changer from the PG position like a CP3 or Nash. He takes over games with his passing and court view plus he is a good defender!
His shooting is something he has to work on (at his age nothing special) but he shows that he can hit big shots already and more importantly set his teammates up for EASY layups!
I would chose him to run the Knicks ANY day!!!
Like Fish suggested at least watch some vids before you bash the kid. No offense intended, but your comment just sounded like you simply read his stats.
As a last note, I dont think we will be in position to get him, cause NO doubt hell be selected Nr.2!

So was Darko the cant miss european KG

Skita was suppose to be the can't miss Pau but better according to D'Antoni back in 2002. From the limited amount of games that I saw in the Olympics, I think he can play in the NBA but he isn't worth turning over your roster to get.

if we get him, he's gonna get hit in the back in sl by a 240 lb. pg.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by dodger78:

Briggs no way you can project his play in college ball! This kid (at 19 years) has already some years of experience playing ball on a high level (Spanish ball is quiet good!) against adult competition.
If you would have watched him play for Spain at the Olympics you would have seen what is so special about this kid! He is a game changer from the PG position like a CP3 or Nash. He takes over games with his passing and court view plus he is a good defender!
His shooting is something he has to work on (at his age nothing special) but he shows that he can hit big shots already and more importantly set his teammates up for EASY layups!
I would chose him to run the Knicks ANY day!!!
Like Fish suggested at least watch some vids before you bash the kid. No offense intended, but your comment just sounded like you simply read his stats.
As a last note, I dont think we will be in position to get him, cause NO doubt hell be selected Nr.2!

So was Darko the cant miss european KG

Darko had shown NOTHING in European basketball. He is the typical BUST just drafted because of his "potential". You can very well say the same about Lampe, or even Sergio Rodriguez, who, while he was ok in Spain, was a little bit overrated since day one.

Rudy is terrible misused in Portland, but not many people have Brandon Roy in their roster playing SG. Every case is different.

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by fishmike:

if we could be so lucky... A highly athletic 2 way PG who has played againt and wowed NBA players. He's big and long at 6'4 190 (6'5 220 in Briggs measurements).

He's so clearly the #2 pick I dont see how we have a shot. Our only change is MDA and DW convince him to not work out for anyone and threaten to sign in Europe if any team but NY picks him. It probably wont work but worth a shot

He's clearly the number two, but I think he'll be the best player in this year's draft. Griffin was an absolute stud this year, but he's a smaller guy who may sturggle to get his shot off a the next level, and I think it'll turn out like Durant/Oden or Beasley/Mayo, where the more talented guy falls because "you have to draft size." Rubio was an absolute stud in the Olympics and all the NBA all stars raved about him.

And I love Griffin. He was my choice for the Knicks to draft last year, if he declared. If Bip ever gets that search function together, I'm on record saying that... so, please, no one give me any BS about hating or disrepsecting Griffin.

You know what is funny--people dissing Griffin and calling him small. Lets see how small he is in the pros and how these *stronger bigger PFs will take care of him

people hating on rudy?? i love rudy.

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by fishmike:

if we could be so lucky... A highly athletic 2 way PG who has played againt and wowed NBA players. He's big and long at 6'4 190 (6'5 220 in Briggs measurements).

He's so clearly the #2 pick I dont see how we have a shot. Our only change is MDA and DW convince him to not work out for anyone and threaten to sign in Europe if any team but NY picks him. It probably wont work but worth a shot

He's clearly the number two, but I think he'll be the best player in this year's draft. Griffin was an absolute stud this year, but he's a smaller guy who may sturggle to get his shot off a the next level, and I think it'll turn out like Durant/Oden or Beasley/Mayo, where the more talented guy falls because "you have to draft size." Rubio was an absolute stud in the Olympics and all the NBA all stars raved about him.

And I love Griffin. He was my choice for the Knicks to draft last year, if he declared. If Bip ever gets that search function together, I'm on record saying that... so, please, no one give me any BS about hating or disrepsecting Griffin.

You know what is funny--people dissing Griffin and calling him small. Lets see how small he is in the pros and how these *stronger bigger PFs will take care of him

Whatever. I'm not sure of his actual height, but if he's close to 6'7" all those uncontested shots he faced now become contested, and all those contested shots now get blocked. But, oh yeah, he's the second coming of Karl Malone, right

You mean the contested shots like when he is sitting 4 feet above the rim or hitting his head on the side of the backboard and finishing a dunk? The guys is an NBA PF super star in the making--there is no doubt--he is the real deal--the only and true pick 1 int his draft. If the Knicks were to get pick one and do something otherwise--they would put risk to the value of the franchise after 9 years of losing. At some point people will fail to show up.