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holfresh
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4/8/2009  6:19 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Why does Toronto--in a tight game play ALL of it's players including it's project player and back ups --- 11 man rotation--the day they are eliminated and we don't.

Toronto was eliminated so they cut down on the starters minutes and used the full bench to see what guys have. How come the Knicks seem to be the only club in the nBA who doesnt do this?
This is the same shtty team that has not anything right in 9 years. Can they try to do one thing right? Wouldnt it be a little easier to explain a loss if we have D league guys and Eddy Curry getting burn--and low and behold maybe one of these guys is good?? I mean we do have the D league MVP on the roster--why the F is he not in the game?

Lets try as hard as we can to win every F game so we can draft worse. There is NO benefit of winning--if we win with the D leaguers in the game fine--if they show a game of 14-7 great--we want to see something. but the same 8-9 man tight rotation at this point--come on let it go play 11 guys and stop acting narcissistic and foolish. One more win only means we scked just a tad less.

MDA is trying to push through his agenda and needs as many "wins" at the end of the season as possible...He knows he will be compared to the last couple of coaches...He knows the inevitable question "Are we any better under this coach" will come up this summer...He knows his style of play will be questioned along with the team lack of defensive play...He needs "ammo"...wins are ammo...I'm just not sure if 30s wins is enough ammo but then again, we are rebuilding...



[Edited by - holfresh on 04-08-2009 6:20 PM]
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4/8/2009  9:36 PM
I dont think you can compare us to Boston considering that they have different personnel, I dont think they tanked as much as they were playing to their abilities and it still only netted them a # 5 pick so I dont know what your point is.

Remember there whole agenda was to draft Greg Oden. how would that have turned out? Again, we have the assets to stock up similar to what Boston did, so I really dont know your point of contention.
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4/8/2009  10:22 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by EwingsGlass:

So, you think that playing Sims over say, Jared Jeffries, would make us more or less likely to win the game? This is the same coach that gave Curry minutes. Finally, rather than put Sims and Crawford on display (when they are not under contract for next season), why not hold them back a bit in the hope that other teams will not get look at them vs NBA competition (while the Knicks can run them against their team in practice).

There are a lot of ways to look at this. I get the impression that knows what he is doing, both for himself and the organization. Same goes for Walsh.

Any team can pick up those players in three months. Practice is not the game. See what they have in the game. My bet is no one offers Sims a maximum contract playing 20 minutes in the last 4 games He knows what he is doing like burning 2mm on Roberson

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 04-08-2009 12:40 PM]

"Any team can pick up those players in three months." True, thats my point. Right now we have better information than any other team because we have seen him practice against NBA caliber players.


"Practice is not the game. See what they have in the game." No, practice is not the game. But what difference is there really between playing during garbage minutes and playing during practice? Are you suggesting you send a rookie who has been with the team less than 10 days, may not be in the shape that D'antoni requests and may be unfamiliar with the team sets out in a game so that you can see how he performs in that game?


"My bet is no one offers Sims a maximum contract playing 20 minutes in the last 4 games". Great prediction. But if he plays well, many other teams may offer him "a" contract. This point is just senseless.

"He knows what he is doing like burning 2mm on Roberson " Yeah, Roberson didn't work out. But Roberson's first year was at $790K and the second season was a team option. Your numbers are wrong.
Furthermore, in the grand scheme, Walsh has stated his plan and has stuck to his guns that he is planning for 2010. You could recite the $790k (less, if you prorate it for the amount of the season with the Knicks) as an error, but how many millions of salary cap has he cleared?

He overpaid for Duhon, now that he is breaking down, but how many people on this site were ready to anoint Duhon the 2010 starting pg?

You were offended when we traded Randolph and Crawford because our chances of making the playoffs diminished. We arguably took back less talent in both deals, but our team record is better than both the Warriors and Clippers (not by much though-- the West is a tougher conference, though).

I stand by my statement-- I think Walsh and D'antoni know what they are doing. We might see Sims tonight. If he does, I hope he has a great night. If he doesn't, I'd bet there was a reason.



I can kind of see where NBA scouts and spies would be all over those two ready to pounce with contracts--Knicks have some kind of secrets going there.



Atleast they got burn--you need burn--even in garbage time. Now if Jefferies and Sims play 35 minutes each the next 3 games and Crawford starts at 2 guard we will be assured the 7th draft slot. And my gut feeling tells me the Knicks will have every opportunity to decide whether or not to keep these young guns without complication from other clubs.
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4/9/2009  4:57 AM
Posted by sebstar:

I dont think you can compare us to Boston considering that they have different personnel, I dont think they tanked as much as they were playing to their abilities and it still only netted them a # 5 pick so I dont know what your point is.

Remember there whole agenda was to draft Greg Oden. how would that have turned out? Again, we have the assets to stock up similar to what Boston did, so I really dont know your point of contention.

my point of contention is to stop w/this half assed approach to try & stay competitive while rebuilding crap... it's not working as u can clearly see... just bite the bullet, go w/the youth, dump contracts, amass high lottery picks & build up that way just like the Celtics did... this is how u gain the types of assets that will one day net you a franchise calibre star to build around... this 2010 plan is all well & dandy but we could have been well on the course to cap flexibility in 2010 anyways if we hadn't been so damn obsessed w/trying to make the playoffs every year w/a completely flawed roster.

so what that the Celtics didn't get Oden or Durant... they still were able to trade their young assets to bring KG & Ray Allen to Boston when they deemed it was time to go all in to try & compete... that's how u do it... either go in with both feet or don't do it at all... the day the Knicks finally wake the F up to what i'm talking about is the day i'll stop whining about it... something tells that day isn't coming anytime soon... i'm still gonna vent anyway, so be ready.
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