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martin
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djsunyc
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3/26/2009  3:40 PM
how about momentoating?
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itchetrigr
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3/26/2009  3:43 PM
he clearly pulled up but if you watch the clip in slow motion you see a clipper bumping into harrington from behind and basically stumbles forward as harrington pulls himself upward.. i see this happen a lot especially when theres contact on the play and rarely gets called... kobe does this on nearly all of his dunks....
martin
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3/26/2009  3:47 PM
Posted by itchetrigr:

he clearly pulled up but if you watch the clip in slow motion you see a clipper bumping into harrington from behind and basically stumbles forward as harrington pulls himself upward.. i see this happen a lot especially when theres contact on the play and rarely gets called... kobe does this on nearly all of his dunks....

you may be right about Kobe, but does he pull his body up with the rim or so his legs and knees end up near the backboard? I am thinking just the former.
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Pharzeone
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3/26/2009  4:01 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by DrAlphaeus:

Here's my question: can you get a tech for landing on a guy after a dunk?

no. you can get hurt or hurt the other player.

I recall Kemp getting a taunting tech once for landing on someone back. I forgot the game but they taught he was taunting. It did look like he was playing horsey. Very funny.
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3/26/2009  4:10 PM
It's always funny how these league want to do away with this type of stuff but use the same stuff to promote their league. That's right up there with the NFL making rules trying to protect quarterbacks and then promote the season by showing you clips from last season of defensive linemen taking out quarterbacks. Anyway all this nasty dunks got me thinking about Kemp. It looks like everyone enjoyed these dunks even the refs and opposition.
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martin
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3/26/2009  4:10 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by martin:
Posted by DrAlphaeus:

Here's my question: can you get a tech for landing on a guy after a dunk?

no. you can get hurt or hurt the other player.

I recall Kemp getting a taunting tech once for landing on someone back. I forgot the game but they taught he was taunting. It did look like he was playing horsey. Very funny.

don't know the play but i can see a scenario where if you land, step over a guy and just stand there looking at him without moving on, kinda what Pipen did to Ewing back in the day after he dunked on him, that may be considered a taunting tech these days.
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itchetrigr
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3/26/2009  4:14 PM
your right... he did bring his knees up, but so does every other nba player when theres someone below them...

it did indeed looked like he emphasized the dunk, but it's just the nature of the play... swinging from the rim baseline gives a much more emphasised view as opposed to if he swung from the front of the rim and back....

the contact on the play also contributed to his swing...
Pharzeone
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3/26/2009  4:18 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by martin:
Posted by DrAlphaeus:

Here's my question: can you get a tech for landing on a guy after a dunk?

no. you can get hurt or hurt the other player.

I recall Kemp getting a taunting tech once for landing on someone back. I forgot the game but they taught he was taunting. It did look like he was playing horsey. Very funny.

don't know the play but i can see a scenario where if you land, step over a guy and just stand there looking at him without moving on, kinda what Pipen did to Ewing back in the day after he dunked on him, that may be considered a taunting tech these days.

Oh yeah. The Pippen on Ewing dunk in the playoffs. That was taunting all the way. I do think so guys are allowed to get away with it. As pointed out by JW Dwight does hang on the rim alot but since he is viewed as a nice guy, refs turn their head.
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itchetrigr
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3/26/2009  4:41 PM
OldFan
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3/26/2009  5:13 PM
I thought Al was probably show boating but I just watched the posted video about 5 times and I think Al has a legit beef.
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3/26/2009  5:27 PM
Absolute brutal call. I don't care if he was hanging on the rim or not with 25 seconds left--and it was honestly a marginal infraction if it was an infraction. You don't blow the whistle there.

Al had 38-9--I don't blame anything on Al--without Al we wouldve lost by 15. It was a bad call.
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Vmart
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3/26/2009  5:43 PM
I'm OK with it. All I can do is thank Al for the ping pong ball, every tech counts towards the lottery right now. I'm hoping for 10 techs a game from the Knicks. The Knicks need to increase every odd possible for the lottery.
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3/26/2009  6:00 PM
Well, this call was absurd, but at least the NBA hasnt snatched away our chances at a chip, and a chance to stick it to Micheal Jordan, when we were arguably playing the best ball in the league and we were absolutely stacked in 1997 --- with a pitiful interpretation of a rule...

Yeah. I'm still hella bitter. This is just par for the course. We stay getting worked.
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3/26/2009  6:28 PM
I think the first time Al was showboating on the Clippers and deserved a tech. However last night it looked like a bogus call.

Check it out for yourself.

http://fromthebaseline.com/videos/294-al-harrington-gets-a-tech-for-pull-up-dunk#JOSC_TOP
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3/26/2009  6:53 PM
LOL, that Lebron dunk should have been an automatic T. The league is in terrible shape. I don't even care about the impact on the Knicks perspective but this stuff about officials deciding games is ridculous. That's why you have you Tim Donahgys of the world thinking they can decide games. The only sport where a foul isn't a foul in the last two minutes of a game. Or travel isn't a travel but a "Shrimp dribble" or whatever ridculous excuse someone can come up with to avoid the question of why come you didn't call a travel on a superstar.
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3/26/2009  7:55 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

It's always funny how these league want to do away with this type of stuff but use the same stuff to promote their league.Anyway all this nasty dunks got me thinking about Kemp. It looks like everyone enjoyed these dunks even the refs and opposition.

Good point. When you think of BB highlights you think of dunks, and you never see a guy "posterized" by a good jumper or box out on a rebound, it is always a dunk.

I don't play BB video games, but do any of the games licensed by the NBA include post-dunk histrionics that might get a player a T if done in a real game.

Nevertheless, Harrington was a fool. No reason to put yourself in a position where your team can be hurt by the whim of a ref.
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3/26/2009  10:36 PM
Al did us good and got us more ping pong balls.
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3/26/2009  11:00 PM
Is there a 'Both' option?
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knicks1248
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3/26/2009  11:04 PM
Al along with most of this roster are idiots.
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3/27/2009  11:50 AM
Maybe Al can say he was doing a "crab" dunk. Seems to work for Le'Bron.

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