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islesfan
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3/16/2009  10:21 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

that's a homerun, no?

I don't get what happened. I thought it was an obvious homerun.
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islesfan
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3/16/2009  10:22 PM
I give Luis Sojo credit for that homerun.
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3/17/2009  12:38 AM
Posted by orangeblobman:

Saw the rack. Saw the rack.

dammit... where the hell is Cosmic when u need him?
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islesfan
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3/17/2009  7:32 PM
Ted Lilly blows.
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djsunyc
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3/17/2009  7:32 PM
dang, alex rios with a BOMB. PR up 1-0...
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3/17/2009  7:33 PM
I'm officially done with the WBC. When the manager of your team says they are considering pulling the team out, even if they advance because of the injuries, then its time to get rid of the tournament.
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3/17/2009  7:34 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm officially done with the WBC. When the manager of your team says they are considering pulling the team out, even if they advance because of the injuries, then its time to get rid of the tournament.

what happened?
islesfan
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3/17/2009  7:37 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm officially done with the WBC. When the manager of your team says they are considering pulling the team out, even if they advance because of the injuries, then its time to get rid of the tournament.

what happened?

Johnson said he would forfeit games before he put any players in at positions they weren't used to and risk getting them injured.

It was a hypothetical question about what he would do if he needed an emergency catcher.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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3/17/2009  7:37 PM
I'm torn. I want to watch CC pitch on YES.
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djsunyc
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3/17/2009  7:37 PM
davey johnson is a douche...
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3/17/2009  7:38 PM
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29727649/
U.S. would forfeit in WBC if injuries got too bad
Spate of players sidelined sparks talk of whether tourney bad for Americans
The Associated Press
updated 11:53 p.m. ET, Mon., March. 16, 2009

MIAMI - Team USA manager Davey Johnson already knows what he would do if injuries got so bad in the World Baseball Classic that he ran out of certain position players: He would forfeit.

The injury-plagued Americans were so short-handed Sunday against the Netherlands that backup catcher Brian McCann played left field in the ninth. Asked during the team’s batting practice Monday who his third catcher would have been, Johnson said he wouldn’t have even tried to put a player in that position for fear of injury — even if it meant elimination.

He used Kevin Youkilis as an example, saying he could never return to Boston if the Red Sox first baseman was injured playing catcher in the WBC.

“I would definitely had to gone out and said we had to forfeit this ballgame,” Johnson said. “Yeah, I’d forfeit it.”

Added Youkilis: “Yeah, he probably would.”

About the only constant in the World Baseball Classic for the United States is that everyone seems to be getting injured.

Chipper Jones, Dustin Pedroia, Ryan Braun and Matt Lindstrom all have been lost to injury — and that was just this weekend. Pedroia was replaced by Brian Roberts before Saturday’s game, but tournament rules prevent the team from replacing the others on the roster until the next round.

The slew of sidelined U.S. stars have caused some to wonder if the tournament forces players to unnecessarily risk injury in an exhibition during usual spring training time. Others are questioning offseason conditioning by the Americans, who don’t play winter league baseball anywhere close to the rate as Latin and Asian players.

“I’m definitely going to have a list of things to submit to MLB of things that would make it easier for the manager” to avoid injuries, Johnson said.

Among those, Johnson said he would like to see more exhibition games before the tournament, fewer days off and a rule change allowing a manager to reinsert a player into the lineup if an injury occurs during the game.

As for conditioning, some U.S. players say the timing of the tournament puts them at a disadvantage.

Dozens of Latin American players competing in the World Baseball Classic play in winter leagues in South and Central America, even for just the last few weeks of the season in January. Most players from Asia also are playing or practicing by January.

Winter is typically a laid-back time for American players.

“I don’t start baseball stuff, I don’t start hitting until spring training,” U.S. first baseman and outfielder Adam Dunn said, adding that he starts conditioning at full speed after Christmas.

“I can definitely understand you’re going kind of half speed in the offseason just kind of getting ready for opening day. It’s hard to turn that switch on to full speed. It’s just sort of one of those things I’m not sure there’s a solution.”

The Americans play another elimination game Tuesday night in a rematch against Puerto Rico, with the winner securing a spot in the semifinals in Los Angeles.

The injuries have piled up so much for the Americans that Johnson couldn’t say for sure who is going to start Tuesday night, though he said it likely would be Chicago Cubs pitcher Ted Lilly.

Johnson said he has tried to lean “on the side of caution” with injuries, and that he has gone out of his way to make sure players go back to their clubs healthy. With the major league season retaining its importance, it also underscores MLB’s hope that the exhibition tournament can become like the World Cup in soccer.

Even players admit the focus is on their club.

“Knowing that I’m not going to be able to be a part of (the tournament) is disappointing,” Atlanta Braves slugger Chipper Jones said after he suffered a strain in his right side. “But I’ve got to look at the bigger picture.”

Still, Americans say there is a sense of national pride that comes with wearing the red, white and blue. And most acknowledge these injuries could happen anywhere. What Johnson said has been a bigger issue is players pushing themselves too hard, too soon when they would normally sit out.

Johnson said Lindstrom admitted later the strained right rotator cuff that will sideline him at least a week was something that occurred before the game. And Youkilis, for instance, said he has been bothered by a sore neck.

But Youkilis said it’s not serious and attributes the soreness to hotel pillows and traveling.

“More guys sit out in spring training because something is tweaked, and they miss a day,” he said. “In the WBC, you don’t have a chance to sit out for two days. If you sit out for two days, you’re done for the whole round. The games happen so quick there’s no time to be injured.”
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3/17/2009  7:39 PM
Posted by islesfan:

I'm torn. I want to watch CC pitch on YES.

you'll get 40 chances after tonight...
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3/17/2009  7:40 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by islesfan:

I'm torn. I want to watch CC pitch on YES.

you'll get 40 chances after tonight...

Ohhh snap 40. Let's hope so...
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3/17/2009  7:41 PM
C.C's dealin tonight. He's fun to watch, with the way he pitches.
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3/17/2009  7:48 PM
1st and 3rd, 1 out for the US...
djsunyc
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3/17/2009  7:50 PM
WRIGHT SCORES...games tied at 1...
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3/17/2009  7:51 PM
Great slide by Wright. Jeter must have taught it to him.
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djsunyc
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3/17/2009  7:51 PM
victorino!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

us up 2-0...
islesfan
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3/17/2009  7:52 PM
USA! USA!

That's why Victorino is a world champion.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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3/17/2009  7:57 PM
2 outs in the 3rd and CC has 5k's.
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