Posted by TMS:

i think Derozan will definitely go top 7 too... if he slips past there then someone isn't doing their job... i seriously would like to move up in this draft to take this kid.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by TMS:

i think Derozan will definitely go top 7 too... if he slips past there then someone isn't doing their job... i seriously would like to move up in this draft to take this kid.

No doubt TMS. I would take him in the Top 4.

Posted by TMS:

Harden came up real small for his team when they needed him most... he may be highly touted but i personally wouldn't take him in my top 10.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

TMS, I'm not saying I don't want him. Hell, the Knicks need a PG/SG/C and I'd say Derozan is SG I'd want most. So please, please, please everyone stop reading what I'm saying how you want read it. (Previously I said that his status would rise if he plays well in the tournament, which is now an argument being used against what I'm saying. Huh?) Again, what I'm saying is given how history has played out, given the perception he isn't a hard worker that gets by on athleticism, given that the kid was a consensus pre-season top-3 pick, given that nbadraft.net has him going 10 and the laughable draftexpress.com has him going at 21, it's looking like he'll fall, which bodes well for us, but doesn't change the fact he is no surefire 3-7 pick RIGHT NOW.

[Edited by - supremecommander on 03-16-2009 1:54 PM]

i didn't say u didn't want him... i just don't think he'll be picked after any other SG in this year's draft.

Posted by TMS:

bro if he falls to us where we're picking there won't be a happier poster on this board than me... i think there's more a chance we win the lottery than for that to happen tho.

Posted by BRIGGS:

If Isiah Thomas is still doing the draft--tell him to go out to USC and give this kid a promise if he shuts it down after the tourney. This team has to learn from it's mistakes.

ISIAH: I'M STILL HELPING KNICKS
THOMAS HELPING NEW PRESIDENT WALSH WITH DRAFT
By OSKAR GARCIA, AP
Former President and Coach Isiah Thomas told the AP he is helping the Knicks prepare for the draft.
Last updated: 12:05 pm
March 16, 2009
Posted: 11:52 am
March 16, 2009

LAS VEGAS - Isiah Thomas said on Sunday that he has been doing OK and helping the Knicks prepare for the NBA draft, since police responded to an accidental overdose at his home last October.

Police were called to the home Oct. 24 and said they found a man passed out on the floor after an accidental overdose on sleeping pills. Authorities have not publicly identified the man as Thomas.

Thomas was in Las Vegas to tape a television appearance with Bob Knight, his former coach at Indiana, and sportscaster Billy Packer.

Thomas said that everything has been going well for him personally, and that he hasn't missed any significant time in his work for the Knicks.

"I've still been very active, seeing a lot of games and doing a lot of scouting and looking forward to helping (Knicks president Donnie Walsh) with the draft," Thomas told The Associated Press.

Thomas was fired late last season from his positions as coach and team president, but Walsh kept him on in a consulting and advising role.

Thomas said he was scouting at the Pac-10 tournament last week in Los Angeles.

Thomas mingled with a few fans, smiled for photos and signed autographs before and during the filming of "Survive and Advance" at the sports book of the Wynn Las Vegas casino on the Las Vegas Strip.

A police report released the week after the overdose said the person who called 911 believed the person who had overdosed had stopped breathing.

In the report, a police officer says he went to Thomas' home in Harrison, N.Y., and helped another officer who was administering oxygen to a person lying on the kitchen floor. Harrison is about 30 miles from midtown Manhattan.

Thomas has said it was his teenage daughter who required treatment, but Harrison Police Chief David Hall forcefully rebuked that and said he did not understand why "they're throwing her under the bus."

Thomas won NBA titles as a player with the Detroit Pistons in 1989 and 1990, and an NCAA championship with Indiana in 1981. He joined the Knicks as the team president in 2003 and became coach in June 2006.

Last season, Thomas drew the wrath of fans in New York and was dismissed with a 56-108 record with the Knicks. Overall, he is 187-223 as an NBA coach, leading the Indiana Pacers to the playoffs in three straight years from 2000-03.

Posted by SupremeCommander:

and for the record, I'll say I'd be more than happy with Derozan. He would be a great selection. All I'm saying is that in the NBA draft, teams always prioritize size. It's why Andrew Bogut gets taken over Deron Williams and Marvin Williams over Chris Paul, or why Dwyane Wade or Caron Butler fall...

SG prospects taken in the top 7 (or closest to 7):

2008: OJ Mayo (3), Eric Gordon (7)
2007: Rodney Stuckey (15)
2006: Brandon Roy (6)
2005: Martell Webster (6)
2004: Josh Childress (6)
2003: Dwyane Wade (5)
2002: Dajuan Wagner (6)
2001: Jason Richardson (5)
2000: Jamal Crawford (8)

I stopped at 2000 because I don't care enough to keep going. I listed the guys who went as SG prospects in each draft in the top seven. Twice no one in the top seven was taken. Gordon/Roy/Richardson all got taken later than they should have. OJ Mayo went that high because of hype/the belief he could play PG. I'm not saying it's the way it ought to be, just the way it is. He'll (should) definitely be a lotto pick, but if there's worry about his effort/heart...

I'll say if Derozan gets drafted, the earliest is at the fifth spot (as I said before, so let's not make it out like I say he'll be a bust or that I don't want him), but also needing to be factored is that James Harden is considered to the best SG prospect by the majority, and Gerald Henderson of Duke might get drafted ahead of him because he plays at Duke.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Curry is not an Isiah type of player. Curry is a MDA player for sure, that's why I think he will get picked by the Knicks. Where do you get that from. If anything DeRozen is the guy that Isiah would be yelling. I don't think he would get pass MDA. No consistent jumper? Isiah was high on Randolph but you see what direction Donnie went with. I think it will come down to a point guard, or two SGs in Curry or Chase. I like Chase so I wouldn't mind. I don't think Curry will make on the next level.