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islesfan
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3/11/2009  8:54 PM
Cosmic is very protective of his Gallo.
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3/11/2009  8:58 PM
Oh, and people anointed Gallinari to be a cornerstone of this franchise after a single half of summer league. Before he made it known that he was damaged goods.
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3/11/2009  9:37 PM
I think the rookie has just shown a little more lately and people are hopeful. I think most people realize not only is the jury still out but there isn't enough evidence to make a case for or against the kid.
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3/11/2009  9:40 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Oh, and people anointed Gallinari to be a cornerstone of this franchise after a single half of summer league. Before he made it known that he was damaged goods.

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3/11/2009  9:50 PM
Gallinari is good tonight, playing good!
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3/11/2009  10:04 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Cosmic is very protective of his Gallo.


C'mon man, nothing wrong with sticking with the team's rooks, some ppls just excited with what they see in him.
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3/11/2009  10:28 PM
Posted by NineMike2Whiskey:
Posted by islesfan:

Cosmic is very protective of his Gallo.


C'mon man, nothing wrong with sticking with the team's rooks, some ppls just excited with what they see in him.

Not if you're not consistent with it. Many fans aren't. They pick and choose but have a problem when others do as well but it doesn't happen to be the guys they want to support.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 03-11-2009 10:29 PM]
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3/11/2009  10:36 PM
There are a lot of questions regarding how Gallo's back is affecting his play and whether he's damage goods. We won't be able to finally answer those questions until next season.

Regarding the one game where Gallo didn't shoot well - every player has those games. Why wait until the guy has a bad game and say he's terrible or wait until he has a good game and say he's great. One game never means anything about any player's value. We all know that.
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3/11/2009  10:46 PM
You think those are questions, Ira? No question, Ira. He just needed a little acclimation period. If you compare him to other European rookies of NBA's past, you'll notice, I think, that his rookie year stats are better than many incredible imports. A stat that maybe we look on with not much focus is FT%-- this stat, for Gallinari is 95%. Given that he is a young lad and playing on, many say, biggest stage in B-Ball (an arena where mighty players have faltered), I say this 95%, this is a big proof of raw confidence.

He is healthy next year, confident, stronger-- look at: Gallinari 15.3 ppg with 5.1 rpg, and 2.4 apg-- shooting 49% field, 41% 3p, and 93% Ft, along with >=1 steal pg, common-- this is like all-star ALMOST. And combine with Nate All-Star next year.
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Posted by sebstar:

who's annointing him? Just seems like people are encouraged by his increased minutes and better play as of late. He's a rookie, consistency is not going to be his thing. The praise concerning Gallo has been reasonable for the most part.

I think some people, who have an agenda about always being right, are chomping at the bit to cut him down at the first sign of a bad game. Just my theory.

You are talking about a "fact," not a theory.
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3/11/2009  11:11 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by NineMike2Whiskey:
Posted by islesfan:

Cosmic is very protective of his Gallo.


C'mon man, nothing wrong with sticking with the team's rooks, some ppls just excited with what they see in him.

Not if you're not consistent with it. Many fans aren't. They pick and choose but have a problem when others do as well but it doesn't happen to be the guys they want to support.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 03-11-2009 10:29 PM]


no, but briggs is not being constructive, he is being opportunistic.. after an 0-5 game, in which the kid really din't play bad.. It is typical briggs, after two good games of 17 and 15 with great shooting, you don't see these "constructive" post.. I am not buying it at all... cosmic as well as everyone else can see right through briggs here.... some choose not to, but they can...

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3/11/2009  11:14 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:



He is healthy next year, confident, stronger-- look at: Gallinari 15.3 ppg with 5.1 rpg, and 2.4 apg-- shooting 49% field, 41% 3p, and 93% Ft, along with >=1 steal pg, common-- this is like all-star ALMOST. And combine with Nate All-Star next year.

I hope you're right, but one things for sure. No one will ever accuse you of not being specific.

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3/11/2009  11:44 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by NineMike2Whiskey:
Posted by islesfan:

Cosmic is very protective of his Gallo.


C'mon man, nothing wrong with sticking with the team's rooks, some ppls just excited with what they see in him.

Not if you're not consistent with it. Many fans aren't. They pick and choose but have a problem when others do as well but it doesn't happen to be the guys they want to support.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 03-11-2009 10:29 PM]

I haven't been consistent with Gallo? I thought I had been just saying give him time, he's been hurt, etc. ????

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3/11/2009  11:48 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

That's what I got out of it constructive criticism how to maximize his abilities. I think it is mistake what D'Antoni is doing trying to put this guy in a 3 point specialist role right now for the sake of the playoffs. He needs to work on getting stronger no matter what his people say. I am encourage by him staying stateside away from his group that he will asked to work on his in regards of what he needs to do for the NBA. I want to see a lot more from Gallinari, particularly in the paint where he could use his quickness. Not all criticism are attacks.

Now that's jumping to conclusions (bolded part)

I think he's been held back if anything to prevent an aggravation of the back injury.

I also disagree that he's just a spot up shooter. I think some of that is of design, get your feet wet, watch the team work while you are on the court. Yet the kid has also driven to the hoop a number of times, he's mixed it up defensively, and has been quite active at times.

I think his abilities have been downplayed. Maybe it's just me and as said it's just a reaction to be high on the rookies since they're new blood.

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3/11/2009  11:49 PM
Posted by tkf:


no, but briggs is not being constructive, he is being opportunistic.. after an 0-5 game, in which the kid really din't play bad.. It is typical briggs, after two good games of 17 and 15 with great shooting, you don't see these "constructive" post.. I am not buying it at all... cosmic as well as everyone else can see right through briggs here.... some choose not to, but they can...

Pretty much what I saw TKF but I'm not going to say I'm the end all to anything. It's just what I saw though so I spoke on it right or wrong.
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3/12/2009  12:25 AM
BRIGGS, i thought u had already annointed him as nothing but a bit role player before the season even began.
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3/12/2009  12:27 AM
No it's just a dose of reality. Too many posts killing Nate and Lee and anointing Gallinari as the face of the team and the future superstar. Well

A. without Nate and Lee this team would be the worst team in the league

B. I would like to see Galinari do something other than sit behind the 3 point line in his 20 minutes. He's 6-11 and he's not rebounding the ball--he's not doing anything close to the basket--he's just sitting behind the line waiting for others to find him open. To me that is far far away from what a 4 man does in the NBA. I like that Gallinari has shot well but he has to show a LOT more in terms of all around skills. Don't go out there at 6-11 and get 0 rebounds in 20 minutes. Don't sit behind the line 30 feet from the action. Go down in the post and use your 6-11 frame for a post up. I want to see more and different skills. I don't know if he is actually capable of these other skills. Maybe he is but he hasnt shown it.

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3/12/2009  12:41 AM
how is that a dose of reality? people are encouraged by what they see out of a rookie... that's completely understandable... many of the same people were encouraged when D Lee & Nate were making names for themselves in their first couple years too while others were downplaying their upsides saying they'd be nothing but bit role players too, pointing out players who hadn't done a thing in the NBA like Marcus Williams & Josh Boone as guys they'd rather have over both those guys... let's not play like that didn't happen because everyone who's been posting here a while knows exactly what i'm talking about.

i don't think anyone here is saying Gallo's better than Lee or Nate at this point, only that they see some encouraging things out of this 20 year old kid & see alot more upside than his naysayers simply refuse to see.
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3/15/2009  10:10 AM
Hopefully someone will point out to Gallo there is a game within 30 feet from the basket. It's great that he can shoot with such accuracy from 3 point land--especially at his size. But the concerns I have with this player don't involve 3 point shooting and I don't think Mike D should encourage him to sit 30 feet from the basket on every offensive set.

He also doesnt need to use the awkward dribble. Use that frame to post up SF's down low--thats what I would tell him to do. He has nice touch and length--he should bring his man into the post for a better % shot and it also gives him better rebounding position if the ball is moved and also better ability to kick it around. When you are sitting 30 feet from the basket standing waiting for an open 3--yes he is going to hit some but that s not good all-around basketball. Thats a niche specialist. Id like to see more from him--he can do it.
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3/15/2009  10:30 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I think last night was a wake up call. This player will not get wide open 3's like he has seen when he is scouted better--guys are going to get up on him and force him to take shots like last night instead of having his legs under him. I need to see many more games from Gallinari--I know he has a great shot great size and good instincts but there are a lot of worries and unknowns with this player. He has a lot to prove.

IMO the only thing that is going to hold back Gallo is his back. His back injury is making him slow and methodical out on the court. If his back heals, this kid is going to be at least as good as Hedo Turkuglo and could potentially get to a Dirk level (but that is a long way off). His shot is just too good for him not to be a solid player once he really learns the game. Plus, while I doubt he is going to be a great defensive player, he at least has good instincts on defense. The main thing for him right now is to get his back healed and avoid any surgery. If he can do that, I think we will all be pleasantly surprised with his play next year.
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