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djsunyc
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3/10/2009  8:12 PM
you CAN win with a bad defensive 4/5 (as boozer + okur proves).

but you CAN'T win with a bad defensive 4/5 AND a bad defensive 1/2.

you must have 2 defenders on the court or else you're toast.
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3/10/2009  8:14 PM
you CAN win with a bad defensive 4/5 (as boozer + okur proves)

Utah has 1 of the best defensive frontcourt players in the game in AK47 who also blocks shots & can guard all 5 positions on the floor.
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3/10/2009  8:17 PM
Posted by TMS:
you CAN win with a bad defensive 4/5 (as boozer + okur proves)

Utah has 1 of the best defensive frontcourt players in the game in AK47 who also blocks shots & can guard all 5 positions on the floor.

right. so if the knicks get a defender at the 2/3, then lee at the 4 wouldn't be a problem.
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3/10/2009  8:21 PM
even if we get Ron Artest in here we'll still need a shotblocker in the paint.
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3/10/2009  8:40 PM
So Lee gives up all the points to his man plus half to the perimeter. So If the Knicks keep this guy Walsh and MDa should be fired. Sign Nate and let Lee walk
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3/10/2009  8:43 PM
Who is the best player on this team? I will take Lee he does some things great and some thing bad. The whole team is bad defensively so you can say Nate is better or Wilson is better because of defense? Who on this team is had a better year than Lee?
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3/10/2009  8:43 PM
Posted by King1:

So Lee gives up all the points to his man plus half to the perimeter. So If the Knicks keep this guy Walsh and MDa should be fired. Sign Nate and let Lee walk

King, you take the criticisms way to personally. I don't blame you, but you do.
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3/10/2009  8:46 PM
No I just dont get New York fans. We have so many problems on this team and Lee is the whipping boy and he is one of the few true professionals on the team
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3/10/2009  8:48 PM
Lee's not the whipping boy, get real... he's received the most praise of any of our young players since he's been here barnone... doesn't mean people can't point out his faults like they do for every other player on this roster... u do take things too personally when it comes to Lee.
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No I just dont get New York fans. We have so many problems on this team and Lee is the whipping boy and he is one of the few true professionals on the team

King, I think what you fail to see is that this entire board (sans GKF) likes David Lee and thinks he's a very good player and wants him to stay with this team for the long haul. At the same time this board realizes that David is a very poor defender. I know you like to bring up the fact that the guards are giving up a ton of points (which they are) but people are getting on David for his defense because he's about to get a pretty big contract from the Knicks. With that contract is going to come criticism and being critical of David's defense is something that I think every fan has a right to do because he honestly is a pretty bad defensive player.
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Posted by nyk4ever:
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No I just dont get New York fans. We have so many problems on this team and Lee is the whipping boy and he is one of the few true professionals on the team

King, I think what you fail to see is that this entire board (sans GKF) likes David Lee and thinks he's a very good player and wants him to stay with this team for the long haul. At the same time this board realizes that David is a very poor defender. I know you like to bring up the fact that the guards are giving up a ton of points (which they are) but people are getting on David for his defense because he's about to get a pretty big contract from the Knicks. With that contract is going to come criticism and being critical of David's defense is something that I think every fan has a right to do because he honestly is a pretty bad defensive player.

Entire board? I think that's a gross overstatement. The Lee Hater Nation is growing and will continue to grow one terrible defensive performance at a time.
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Posted by nyk4ever:
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No I just dont get New York fans. We have so many problems on this team and Lee is the whipping boy and he is one of the few true professionals on the team

King, I think what you fail to see is that this entire board (sans GKF) likes David Lee and thinks he's a very good player and wants him to stay with this team for the long haul. At the same time this board realizes that David is a very poor defender. I know you like to bring up the fact that the guards are giving up a ton of points (which they are) but people are getting on David for his defense because he's about to get a pretty big contract from the Knicks. With that contract is going to come criticism and being critical of David's defense is something that I think every fan has a right to do because he honestly is a pretty bad defensive player.

Entire board? I think that's a gross overstatement. The Lee Hater Nation is growing and will continue to grow one terrible defensive performance at a time.

Hey man, Lee's defense is terrible. No doubt.
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Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by King1:

No I just dont get New York fans. We have so many problems on this team and Lee is the whipping boy and he is one of the few true professionals on the team

King, I think what you fail to see is that this entire board (sans GKF) likes David Lee and thinks he's a very good player and wants him to stay with this team for the long haul. At the same time this board realizes that David is a very poor defender. I know you like to bring up the fact that the guards are giving up a ton of points (which they are) but people are getting on David for his defense because he's about to get a pretty big contract from the Knicks. With that contract is going to come criticism and being critical of David's defense is something that I think every fan has a right to do because he honestly is a pretty bad defensive player.

Entire board? I think that's a gross overstatement. The Lee Hater Nation is growing and will continue to grow one terrible defensive performance at a time.

Hey man, Lee's defense is terrible. No doubt.

I knew you would join the club.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-10-2009 9:01 PM]
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3/10/2009  9:11 PM
I think he is a bad defender but what I am saying is every week there is a thread talking about Lee defense when everyone sucks just as bad or worse.
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3/10/2009  9:12 PM
Lee is still the best player on this team so that shows you how bad the Knicks really are
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3/10/2009  9:13 PM
Posted by King1:

I think he is a bad defender but what I am saying is every week there is a thread talking about Lee defense when everyone sucks just as bad or worse.

Like I said in a previous post King. The reason people are getting on Lee's defense is because he's about to get paid. When fans hear a players is about to get a 5yr deal worth upwards 50million and they see horrible defense, they are going to complain.
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3/10/2009  9:13 PM
i think u just have selective vision... do u see how many anti-Duhon threads there are of late? before that people were criticizing Nate Robinson for his shenanigans on the court... before that people were ripping apart Gallinari for being a bust before they ever saw him play... before that people were saying Wilson Chandler was never gonna be anything more than a role player... it happens to every player, D Lee's nothing new... he gets praises on his good points & critiqued on his bad points... that's what this forum is for, to analyze the team & talk about our players.
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3/10/2009  9:14 PM
New York I can agree with that right now Lee is one of the lowest paid players on the team. Lets talk about all the guys on this team stealing money. When Lee gets a huge contract you can call his mom,dad, girlfriend, and dog names I dont care.
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3/10/2009  9:17 PM
GK do you like Walsh and MDA?
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Posted by King1:

New York I can agree with that right now Lee is one of the lowest paid players on the team. Lets talk about all the guys on this team stealing money. When Lee gets a huge contract you can call his mom,dad, girlfriend, and dog names I dont care.

Well I mean, at the moment, yeah, David is a bargain, but it's pretty obvious that he's not going to be a bargain much longer and if he continues playing defense this way he's going to be criticized heavily for it. Everyone knows David has a ton of other positives but he's gotta pick up the D. Big time.
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