Posted by K22:

Don't hold back on our account, Cos. Tell us how you really feel. You don't have to keep it bottled up.

Posted by knicks1248:

It's so hard to point the finger at one player on this knicks squad, i think MDA has lost a hand full of game's for us, I think walsh's timing on these trades have been horrible.

Chris duhon no longer has to look over his shoulder, with steph and the trading deadline in the past.

Lee is playing for a contract not to win games.

Nate is turning into allen iverson.

chandler is playing real well but makes costly mistakes in the clutch along with lee.

Q has been so inconsistant along with he's role and minutes

Jeffries role changes from game to game sometimes play to play.

Our scouting department sucks we never seem prepared in the final 5 minutes weather were leading by 2 or 15. But then that also says a lot about MDA.

If you look back at MDA when he had nash he almost always ask nash what you wanna run in the final 2 minutes. Can you picture him asking duhon that.
Our biggest headache's are no center, no play making point guard that can break down a defense ( duhon is good for that 2 out of every 10 possesions) and absolutely no leadership whatsoever.

Guy's turn over the ball in the clutch, and nobody say's anything Larry hugh's deserved an ear full after that TO last night, as well as duhon and lee. Everybody keeps their thoughts to themselves. There content with one saying "MY BAD"

MDA use of DG is down right ridiculous and his team mates are no help. no one's in his face telling him he's the best damn shooter on the team.

Gosh Leadership is priceless. If everyone was playing hard and fighting then larry runs down the Easy bucket and gives a hard foul, winnining and playing hard is contagous and Walt say's it all the time.

Just imagine your on you job busting your ass and your co workers take 2 hr lunches, always on the internet, or a PC (personal calls) for long stretch's, and actually wrks 2hrs out of a 8hr day with no one on there case. That pretty becomes you after awhile n soon your like fck it.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Lee is all about the stats. That's the bottom line. He doesn't try on defense at all so he can focus on grabbing a rebound and getting his double double. He provides 0 on defense.

Lee is by no means all about stats. The team defense is terrible when there's mismatches on the floor. Teams attack us by getting enough switches until they have a forward on Nate.

Lee gets beat because he's a rugged small forward, not really a power forward and especially not a center. He needs to be teamed with a player like Radmonovich that can fill the center role on defense and forward role on offense. We don't have that player.

The last thing on the dude's mind is padding his stats. I've never seen him take a shot out of the offense.

I don't know how you can pad your rebounding stats if that's what you're referring to. How does that work?

Dude - did you just say that we need to team Lee with Vlad Radmonivich and play Radmonavich at center defensively?

That is the most absurd proposal I've seen in a long time. Vlad is the softest bitch in the league....next to D-Lee of course.

Posted by jrodmc:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I think right now you are to the blame since it's fans like you that wants the Knicks to win as many games as possible instead of getting a quality lotto pick

Yeah, I can't wait to see what's better than an overrated, frail Italian with a gimpy back.

Hopefully, with an even dumber symbol to flash.

[Edited by - jrodmc on 03-10-2009 1:22 PM]

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Lee is all about the stats. That's the bottom line. He doesn't try on defense at all so he can focus on grabbing a rebound and getting his double double. He provides 0 on defense.

Lee is by no means all about stats. The team defense is terrible when there's mismatches on the floor. Teams attack us by getting enough switches until they have a forward on Nate.

Lee gets beat because he's a rugged small forward, not really a power forward and especially not a center. He needs to be teamed with a player like Radmonovich that can fill the center role on defense and forward role on offense. We don't have that player.

The last thing on the dude's mind is padding his stats. I've never seen him take a shot out of the offense.

I don't know how you can pad your rebounding stats if that's what you're referring to. How does that work?

By not playing any defense. That's how you pad those rebounding stats. When you're more concerned at waiting for the rebound than going to put a hand in someone's face. David Lee is overrated by the entire fanbase just like others have been. I have gotten sick of discussing him and his faults. I'll do so another time when I'm more level-headed but the bottom line is he is not that good. Backup player. That's it. I've seen tons of PF's in the league. He isn't that different from the rest of the mediocre PF's in the NBA. Briant Grant once put up 14 and 12 or something like that. The difference is he played some D. Some damn good D too. I'd take young Brian Grant over young David Lee. I said it.

Greek, you're so right. David Lee has been playing for the Knicks the past 4 years that we have been terrible, just like the rest of the bunch. He only does 1 or 2 things well, just like Crawford, Harrington, Robinson, Curry and the whole rest of the bunch.

I wonder why Lee escapes the blame while everybody else has to share that burden. It must be very nice. 15 rebounds with nothing else contributed is very similar to 20 points with nothing else contributed.

One other thing you're right about, if Lee had a year like Brian Grants top year these guys would give him the key to the city!

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