Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by VDesai:

Its a moot discussion b/c Wilcox hasn't proven to have the work ethic to be David Lee. Even if he did, that he'd outrebound Lee is quite a feat for him. There aren't a lot of players in the league who average around 12 rebs...this year or any year.

Brian Grant. Danny Fortson. That's 2 off the top of my head. Throw out something else for me to disprove.

[Edited by - gkfv2 on 03-09-2009 11:51 PM]

Its still relatively small percentage of players so I'm not sure what you are proving or disproving and Fortson averaged his 11.7 while averaging a cruddy 43% from the field, well behind the pace that Lee sets. He also only averaged double digit rebounds once in his career (Lee has already done this twice in 4 years, and nearly 3 years in a row). Grant never averaged close to 12 rebs- though he was actually a very good player derailed by injuries at various points in his career.

I think its fairly easy to say Lee is superior to Fortson. As far as Grant is concerned, he was a solid NBA role player+ for a bunch of years, his career is nothing to be ashamed of.


[Edited by - vdesai on 03-10-2009 12:03 AM]

Danny Forton averaged 16 RPG in one season.

Fortson wasnt a good defender. He was a thug with no skills and had a short career. He also never had anything close to 16 rebounds.. he had 2 seasons where he was around 11-12rpg for terrible teams.

Also saying a talent gap is close between Lee and Wilcox is pretty lame. Its not playstation. Lee is so much better because he plays hard every night. Wilcox is a scrub because he doesnt. So what.. he had one decent season for the worst team in the league with no frontcourt. Lee is on the floot so much because he cleans the glass and scores a lot of points at 57%, and he does it every night.

If you want 'talented' guys lets get Isiah back. Curry, Frye and Marbury are talented. I will take the guys that play hard

Posted by GKFv2:

He put up 13 and 7 only last year in 30 MPG in a crappy offense dedicated to Durant shooting 60% of the time. He got traded for Rose because their both expiring and Wilcox wasn't going to play for a rebuilding team. Rose is there for a "veteran presence" like he was here. It's not like Wilcox is worth Rose. You forget he was traded for Tyson Chandler only 2 days before we got him.

Wilcox is not the epitome of hard work or anything else but when he does play hard there is not much of a gap there. David Lee is completely overrated. Works hard? Yeah, maybe at fluffing his stats. Where is that hard work on defense? I don't see any of it. This guy is looking to get paid first and foremost. Sure, all NBA players are but this guy could care less about playing D if it's gonna cost him a rebound. David Lee needs to be traded.

you can stop right there at the bolded part.. after that, he doesn't even deserve to be compared to lee..... why do we want that type of player around here?

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by VDesai:

Though he did get the 11+ rebs on other time early in the lock shortened year in Denver. He was never that good though he did fall off a quick pretty quickly partly due to injuries as well.

I would take young Forton or young Grant over Lee, no question. Call me crazy but I actually appreciate a guy who can play defense and those guys did so very well. They also rebounded the ball very well. Their expertise wasn't scoring and it isn't Lee's either. Lee is not some sort of dominant scorer where it makes up for his terrible defense.

Brian grant, I can see.. Fartson? Please!!!!

Posted by nyk4ever:

Gallo To Stay In the States This Summer

Dude that has nothing to do with this thread. Get out of here!