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Looking for a point guard better than that bum Chris Duhon
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3/3/2009  10:36 AM
Jason Kidd? Here?

The irony of that would be telling to say the least.
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3/3/2009  10:37 AM
If we had been running the minutes split we are now the whole year, Duhon wouldn't be worn out and we'd be in a better spot.

This draft is PG heavy. We have to try everything we can to get Jennings. He's the alpha-dog that this team has lacked since the Spree days.
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3/3/2009  10:37 AM
Duhon is not a superstar and like any other NBA player will have some down time during the season. He was terrific in the beginning and seems to be slowing down quite a bit due to injuries and fatigue. He needs to be playing at the most 32 minutes a game to be effective. We needed a backup PG in the worse way. I am really hoping Nate can fill this void.
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3/3/2009  10:50 AM
pickup a pg somewhere in the draft

as in

Teague, Jennings, Lawson, Evans, Maynor, Collison, Flynn, De Colo, Beaubois, Price, Rice, Hudson, McClinton and Pargo

and let D'Antoni coach the kid so he'll be knowledgeable about all the ins and outs in 2010, when Duhon's contract is up.
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3/3/2009  10:56 AM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

pickup a pg somewhere in the draft

as in

Teague, Jennings, Lawson, Evans, Maynor, Collison, Flynn, De Colo, Beaubois, Price, Rice, Hudson, McClinton and Pargo

and let D'Antoni coach the kid so he'll be knowledgeable about all the ins and outs in 2010, when Duhon's contract is up.

If the Knicks are going to get a PG--they should put their work into moving up for Jennings. He is the guy who makes other people better and has the star ability for the NBA game
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3/3/2009  11:03 AM
Excuses....5'8" Nate Robinson has no excuses when the dude gives up @ least 4" everynight....most of the time they are putting guys 8" taller than him and they still can't stop him.....he had a groin injury and a lot of guys threw the Kid under the bus.....

Duhon? People have been saying he's getting worn out in November!!!! Enough is enough.

Pick and roll.....when was the last time Duhon was effective with Lee? Not in 2009....teams adjusted to that and he hasn't....unless you call shooting 40 footers out of the flow of the offense.

I would start Nate at this point, but most peeps are right that the Knicks are at their best with Nate coming off the bench. Knicks still need a bonified floor general ahead of Nate to make sense.....

Bottom line Duhon is a bum!!! He's not doing anything he was advetised to do. Especially defense.
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3/3/2009  11:05 AM
I wonder how long this team is going to wait for N8 to mature. At this point, I'd say he is what he is. Whether or not it's good for the team will likely be decided this summer. We seriously need a 'veteran' PG to run this team. I'm becoming very concerned of the Q Rich influence on this team. Doesn't look like he's all to happy about his new role with the addition of Hughes. I hope he doesn't drag N8, Chandler and Lee down with him.
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3/3/2009  12:40 PM
Posted by Rookie:

I wonder how long this team is going to wait for N8 to mature. At this point, I'd say he is what he is. Whether or not it's good for the team will likely be decided this summer. We seriously need a 'veteran' PG to run this team. I'm becoming very concerned of the Q Rich influence on this team. Doesn't look like he's all to happy about his new role with the addition of Hughes. I hope he doesn't drag N8, Chandler and Lee down with him.


I think we all would like Nate to act like he has been there before. At some point he can't get all hopped up when he scores. He should Act like he has done it before. You do it every time then it becomes tedious and basically he comes off like an attention whore. Enough already play hard and stay focused stop playing to the crowd.

I think Nate is sensing it now and he will come around and focus more on the game, you can treat these games like he is at the ruck. Playing for the Knicks is a job and he should treat it like a job, he can go off once in a while, just don't do it all the time.
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3/3/2009  12:48 PM
Its true. If Duhon is going to throw it away again and again... and again... you might as well have Nate in there.
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3/3/2009  2:22 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:

Duhon was a stopgap solution all along... did u figure on contending in the 2 years he was gonna be here?

From the post earlier in the year, wasn't he viewed on this board as a keeper?

he can still be a keeper but i think we all knew he wasn't gonna be a star calibre player from the very beginning... seems to me the expectations have changed for a 2 year MLE player who exceeded expectations earlier in the season w/his good play... now fans aren't willing to accept anything less out of him... name me 1 MLE player we could have signed to a similar contract that would have been a better option before the season began? because of Duhon we were able to phase Dinglebury out of the rotation & send him far away from this team where he belonged... Nate's recent brilliant play has made him a fan favorite & i'd have no problem seeing if he could hack the starting PG spot, but i still don't view him as a true PG... he does his best work as a sparkplug instant scoring punch... having a guy like Duhon playing w/him who doesn't look for his offense seems to be a perfect fit in my eyes.
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3/3/2009  3:08 PM
I think Enyspree had some high expectations of Duhon and is now disappointed. Before the season I thought duhon was a backup that was being brought in here as a stop gap solution(hence the 2 year contract). I think he's outperformed my expectations and has done an okay job. I think D'Antoni is happy with Duhon and what a career back-up has done as a full year starter. I also don't think he would hesitate to bring in a true starter or PG of the future if one comes available. He understands what it takes to run his system properly. He understands that the PG has to be somewhat responsible for the collapses that we've had down the stretch of games. He just can't do it right now. It will happen. Duhon will not be your forever PG.
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3/3/2009  4:04 PM
Trade for Russell Westbrook.
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3/3/2009  5:57 PM
Bip - I thought Duhon sucked in Chicago and I was highly pissedified that the knicks signed that bum for 6 mil when they coulda had two players to be the stop gap at pg and another position.

I always stressed he wasn't busy enough, and lacked an ability to be creative or gain space for himself off the dribble.....

What I can't stand about him and peeps that like him is the things he is advertised to be good at....defense...being steady....smart....leader....I mean its total bull****.
I'm not expecting Duhon to be anything but a steady guard. He's not that....regardless of what he did in the first 2 months....jan and feb he has been the worst point guard in the league. He has no control over the game and no inpact. He doesn't have the ability period. Mardy Collins is a better player.

Again I'm not saying he needed to be 12 and 7 (cuz that's what his numbers say)....I'm saying he needs to be steady and smart and defend. In 2009 he's been Jared fishlips, aside from his "Duhon Bombs"© from 40 feet that are worse than any Crawford shot I've seen.....he's been a bum. I'd take any pg in the league over him. Even some of the guys the Knicks reciently faced....like anthony Johnson,....dude I'd rather have that guy.

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3/3/2009  9:44 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

I think Enyspree had some high expectations of Duhon and is now disappointed. Before the season I thought duhon was a backup that was being brought in here as a stop gap solution(hence the 2 year contract). I think he's outperformed my expectations and has done an okay job. I think D'Antoni is happy with Duhon and what a career back-up has done as a full year starter. I also don't think he would hesitate to bring in a true starter or PG of the future if one comes available. He understands what it takes to run his system properly. He understands that the PG has to be somewhat responsible for the collapses that we've had down the stretch of games. He just can't do it right now. It will happen. Duhon will not be your forever PG.

Bip, damn you. Where's that search function. Duhon was talked about being a keeper in November..




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3/3/2009  10:38 PM
Duhon is a good player. He was a pretty good pick up for the MLE compared to what we spent it on in the past. 12 points 8 assists and nearly 4 rebound shooting 50% efg is apretty good NBA player. His numbers are superior to Derrick Fisher who starts PG on the best team.
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3/3/2009  11:21 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Bippity10:

I think Enyspree had some high expectations of Duhon and is now disappointed. Before the season I thought duhon was a backup that was being brought in here as a stop gap solution(hence the 2 year contract). I think he's outperformed my expectations and has done an okay job. I think D'Antoni is happy with Duhon and what a career back-up has done as a full year starter. I also don't think he would hesitate to bring in a true starter or PG of the future if one comes available. He understands what it takes to run his system properly. He understands that the PG has to be somewhat responsible for the collapses that we've had down the stretch of games. He just can't do it right now. It will happen. Duhon will not be your forever PG.

Bip, damn you. Where's that search function. Duhon was talked about being a keeper in November..

the discussion was who out of Lee, Nate, Duhon & Al Harrington would guys rather hold onto past 2009... i remember cuz i posted the poll... at the time both Duhon & Harrington were playing the best basketball of their careers, how can u blame me for bringing up that topic? right now if u asked the question it obviously wouldn't hold as much water when both Lee & Nate are playing the best ball of their careers & Duhon has levelled off tremendously... Al for his part has stayed pretty consistent since he's been here... i don't remember any threads that proclaimed Duhon as our PG of the future tho... maybe u do.
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3/4/2009  12:10 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Bippity10:

I think Enyspree had some high expectations of Duhon and is now disappointed. Before the season I thought duhon was a backup that was being brought in here as a stop gap solution(hence the 2 year contract). I think he's outperformed my expectations and has done an okay job. I think D'Antoni is happy with Duhon and what a career back-up has done as a full year starter. I also don't think he would hesitate to bring in a true starter or PG of the future if one comes available. He understands what it takes to run his system properly. He understands that the PG has to be somewhat responsible for the collapses that we've had down the stretch of games. He just can't do it right now. It will happen. Duhon will not be your forever PG.

Bip, damn you. Where's that search function. Duhon was talked about being a keeper in November..





my opinion has never changed i think you discussed that with someone else. I'm still okay with his play as a stop gap
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3/4/2009  12:38 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Bippity10:

I think Enyspree had some high expectations of Duhon and is now disappointed. Before the season I thought duhon was a backup that was being brought in here as a stop gap solution(hence the 2 year contract). I think he's outperformed my expectations and has done an okay job. I think D'Antoni is happy with Duhon and what a career back-up has done as a full year starter. I also don't think he would hesitate to bring in a true starter or PG of the future if one comes available. He understands what it takes to run his system properly. He understands that the PG has to be somewhat responsible for the collapses that we've had down the stretch of games. He just can't do it right now. It will happen. Duhon will not be your forever PG.

Bip, damn you. Where's that search function. Duhon was talked about being a keeper in November..





my opinion has never changed i think you discussed that with someone else. I'm still okay with his play as a stop gap

Is he as good as Howard Eisley?
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3/4/2009  8:47 AM
I hate Howard Eisley. Anybody who started over Charlie Ward is an a-hole.
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