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franco12
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2/24/2009  12:16 AM
We basically already have an Odom- its called a combo of Al Harrington & Gallo.

He doesn't fix our lack of perimeter D & shot blocking or general size up front.

He'd be another 3 pt chucker in this system.

No thanks!
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2/24/2009  12:19 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rookie:

Odom is not going to re-sign with LA, no way. The guy needs to be starting somewhere.

Since Bynum went down--he has been putting up 20-15 nearly every night. Imagine removing Jefferies and putting Odom in there--adding a athletic G via the draft who can play now and filling out the roster in a wise way?

C-Lee
F Odom
F Harrington
G Chandler
G Nate Rob
F Wilcox
F Gallinari
G Willie Warren or Teague
G Duhon

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 02-23-2009 11:40 PM]

Glad you aren't building a team.
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2/24/2009  12:34 AM
Adding Kidd is a thought.
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2/24/2009  12:52 AM
lamar odom briggs?

wow..

good night......
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2/24/2009  1:13 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rookie:

Odom is not going to re-sign with LA, no way. The guy needs to be starting somewhere.

Since Bynum went down--he has been putting up 20-15 nearly every night. Imagine removing Jefferies and putting Odom in there--adding a athletic G via the draft who can play now and filling out the roster in a wise way?

C-Lee
F Odom
F Harrington
G Chandler
G Nate Rob
F Wilcox
F Gallinari
G Willie Warren or Teague
G Duhon

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 02-23-2009 11:40 PM]

a team like that guarantees u nothing but continued mediocrity for the next 5 years... weren't u telling me that the worst place to be in just a couple weeks ago? like i said, why bother w/these threads cuz u know ur gonna change ur mind after the next 4 or 5 game losing streak anyway & wanna completely blow up this roster & start from scratch again.
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2/24/2009  7:27 AM
It's pretty simple. We can score points right now. Adding what would be a an absolute cost value for a player in his prime who starts[and has been unbelievable]would be a difference maker. I don't think we are going to haev a lot of teams to compete with--that is not the case in 2010. On top of which Im not suggesting we pay him 14mm a year---a full MLE is good money spent on the right player. The ultimate goal is put a team you can go to war with that has a chance to go all the way. Lamar Odom would tip the scales in the East for a team like the Knicks. An Odom Lee frontcourt would be one of the best and we already have a great bench. If we signed Harrington Lee Nate and Odom--we could still be a player for FA in 2011 if need be. You are taking a main cog on what looks like a championship team @ 6-10 245 who would play perfectly in this style of play. We HAVE to pay Nate Lee and Harrington--it would be very stupid to do this 2010 plan and subtract one of those players for cap reasons. We could be a very entertaining winning club with a couple of smart moves and a smart draft. We show signs but we don't have enough---if we add an inside presence like Odom[who plays good D] and a perimeter athelete who can slash and play defense off the bench and we will be very good. I can't think of many players better than Odom for this style of play. Play the cards you are dealt. If I didnt think we could get Odom--I wouldnt waste my time. I do think that competing for FA in 2010 will be rough and possibly getting rid of one of our really good players is a real[extremely] bad gamble.
People saying Lamar Odom--he scks---I would say they should watch a few Laker games anbd come back and say that. Lamar Odom since inserted into the SL is playing the best ball of his life--at full potential Lamar Odom is an all star caliber multi faceted skill player.
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2/24/2009  7:32 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rookie:

Odom is not going to re-sign with LA, no way. The guy needs to be starting somewhere.

Since Bynum went down--he has been putting up 20-15 nearly every night. Imagine removing Jefferies and putting Odom in there--adding a athletic G via the draft who can play now and filling out the roster in a wise way?

C-Lee
F Odom
F Harrington
G Chandler
G Nate Rob
F Wilcox
F Gallinari
G Willie Warren or Teague
G Duhon

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 02-23-2009 11:40 PM]

a team like that guarantees u nothing but continued mediocrity for the next 5 years... weren't u telling me that the worst place to be in just a couple weeks ago? like i said, why bother w/these threads cuz u know ur gonna change ur mind after the next 4 or 5 game losing streak anyway & wanna completely blow up this roster & start from scratch again.

OK let me see you want Demar Derozen who cant shoot past 5 feet----that will enhance the program really quickly. Ill take Willie Warren or Jeff Teague and we''ll talk about it next year

My plan go get Lamar Odom for the full MLE frontloaded and either Teague or Warren for the bench. Your plan draft Dereozen and trade Nate robinson for a late pick. OK chief:)
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2/24/2009  7:54 AM
Odom for the MLE would be a coup. He's on the few guys that can play all 5 positions in this league. He's a terrific talent and can fill out a stat sheet bigtime.

A couple concerns
1) he's a pothead, likes to party and is from here. Might be a bad mix
2) he's been injury prone over his career
3) he's a bit soft and tends to disappear (he's no fugazy)

however giving him the full MLE would be a steal IMO. You could put him at the 3 or the 4. He could come off the bench behind anyone for 30 minutes a night, whatever. He would be a stud in this offense
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2/24/2009  8:07 AM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Go get me Lamar Odom for PF next year and draft an uber athletic slashing guard like Warren or Teague

Falcindor?

HAHA!! That was my reaction too
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2/24/2009  8:07 AM
two words

contract year

don't be fooled by the stats players produce while working in a contract year.

Odom is a very talented player BUT with his inconsistency and "unclutchness", this is not the guy you want as the first banana.


This is what the Knicks are aiming for, to get that star that is and wants to be the main man.
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2/24/2009  8:32 AM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

two words

contract year

don't be fooled by the stats players produce while working in a contract year.

Odom is a very talented player BUT with his inconsistency and "unclutchness", this is not the guy you want as the first banana.


This is what the Knicks are aiming for, to get that star that is and wants to be the main man.

We will not get a player better than Lamar Odom in 2010. Odom is a grown man--he's not 22 years old and playing for the Clippers. That was 8 years ago. Watch him play tonight--and watch a 5 game sample. The guy is perfect for us. This is how you take advantage of the MLE and the fact that teams are going overboard for 2010. We have to sign Nate Lee and Harrington--once you accept that---your mindset changes to how we can make this team get over the hump now. Lamar Odom is better than any Knick player right now and fits the system perfect. He's in his direct prime.
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2/24/2009  8:38 AM
watch any season BEFORE this one
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2/24/2009  8:44 AM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

watch any season BEFORE this one

or the 1st half of this one where he was posting career lows.
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2/24/2009  8:56 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

watch any season BEFORE this one

or the 1st half of this one where he was posting career lows.

He accepted a role as sixth man. Watch him now with 40 minutes--the Lakers are 9-1 with him in the starting 4 spot.
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2/24/2009  8:59 AM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

watch any season BEFORE this one

Go back and read me his last 5 years stats

Tell me what his numbers are since they put him in the starting line up.


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2/24/2009  9:07 AM
briggs you really should know better than to judge a 10-year vet on a 10-game stretch. as you may reacall, marbury had a stretch every season where he played like the league mvp.
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2/24/2009  9:07 AM
watch, as in not numbers

Odom is one of the most talented players in the game but it's not a fluke that he isn't top billing

Odom is not first banana, Odom flourished with the Lakers as soon as Pau arrived, not earlier.

F the stats, come playoff time if your best guy is Odom, you're not going to win it
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2/24/2009  9:27 AM
Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

watch, as in not numbers

Odom is one of the most talented players in the game but it's not a fluke that he isn't top billing

Odom is not first banana, Odom flourished with the Lakers as soon as Pau arrived, not earlier.

F the stats, come playoff time if your best guy is Odom, you're not going to win it

I agree, but assuming (the very big assumption) that he would be willing to take the MLE to play in his hometown... why wouldn't you do that?

There are a lot of unrestricted FAs that, if you could convince to take the MLE, I think you have to...

Odom, Kidd, Rashweed, Artest, Bibby, Iverson, Marion... if you can convince any of these guys to take the MLE, all things considered I think you do it. (Even with all the headaches)
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2/24/2009  9:46 AM
I see where you are getting at BRIGGS with Odom and I would not mind taking that route as long as we can get another player in the Joe Johnson mold. If he signs for the MLE then I say go for it but we would need to unload Curry and JJSkinny to get a shot at a MAX player in 2010. 4 big contracts expire next year so that should be enough for 1 max player.
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2/24/2009  9:49 AM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by BRIGGS:
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Odom is not going to re-sign with LA, no way. The guy needs to be starting somewhere.

Since Bynum went down--he has been putting up 20-15 nearly every night. Imagine removing Jefferies and putting Odom in there--adding a athletic G via the draft who can play now and filling out the roster in a wise way?

C-Lee
F Odom
F Harrington
G Chandler
G Nate Rob
F Wilcox
F Gallinari
G Willie Warren or Teague
G Duhon

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 02-23-2009 11:40 PM]

Glad you aren't building a team.

Wilcox is a UFA, but other than that this roster would at least get you to where Atlanta is.

Jeffries is a very poor man's Odom. Do we have the Mid-Level this year? You get to use it every two seasons right?

If you signed Odom, Lee and Nate, you'd really have to get rid of Curry to get LeBron.

Briggs, you thinking that Odom would come for one year?
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