[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Someone needs to go to the Utah forum on realgm
Author Thread
subzero0
Posts: 21244
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/24/2003
Member: #410
2/23/2009  2:50 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by islesfan:

What did the guy say that wasn't true? You do realize that the Knicks are in the position to lose Lee and Nate for absolutely nothing this summer or severely handicap themselves in their oft stated goal of being a major player in free agency in the summer of 2010. And Jeffries and Curry would still be on the roster as Walsh chose not to use $28M in expiring contracts, Nate and Lee and the ability to eat another team's salary for a year. So many wasted opportunities.
both RFAs. Knicks arent losing anything they dont want to lose.

Say something... please.


no ****. Notice the "or" and what's after it.

Reading comprehension... please.

Forget it isles. Some of these fans just don't realize that some of the moves Walsh has made has actually hampered us from winning a championship. They think that all we have to do is clear as much space as possible, sign one or a couple of players in the summer of 2010, then sit back and watch the championships roll in. I have tried to explain that this is wrong in babytalk but it seems some people just don't get it. So the best thing to do is make our point then recede into the shadows. Getting into a back and forth with some people just doesn't work Im afraid.
AUTOADVERT
subzero0
Posts: 21244
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/24/2003
Member: #410
2/23/2009  2:52 PM
BTW: I want Walsh to succeed. But if the desired result is winning a championship, a couple of his moves have been dubious at best.
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
2/23/2009  2:53 PM
Posted by subzero0:

BTW: I want Walsh to succeed. But if the desired result is winning a championship, a couple of his moves have been dubious at best.

I don't understand you, you're still speaking in babytalk.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
subzero0
Posts: 21244
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/24/2003
Member: #410
2/23/2009  2:56 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by subzero0:

BTW: I want Walsh to succeed. But if the desired result is winning a championship, a couple of his moves have been dubious at best.

I don't understand you, you're still speaking in babytalk.

You see isles?
martin
Posts: 79920
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
2/23/2009  3:15 PM
Posted by subzero0:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by subzero0:

BTW: I want Walsh to succeed. But if the desired result is winning a championship, a couple of his moves have been dubious at best.

I don't understand you, you're still speaking in babytalk.

You see isles?

What moves?
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
2/23/2009  3:43 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by subzero0:

BTW: I want Walsh to succeed. But if the desired result is winning a championship, a couple of his moves have been dubious at best.

I don't understand you, you're still speaking in babytalk.

what is it with you & babies these days douchebag? are u expecting?
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Nalod
Posts: 72078
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
2/23/2009  4:14 PM
Even if our pick is no.1 or no. 20, we still don't have it.

It sucks, but its gone. Either way its not ours.

A Utah poster can go off he wants, as can Isles. It don't matter.

Rebuilding sucks. Live with it.

MDA has had three roster change overs this season and he still has matched our win total of last year.

Progress is being made, its just not evident on the future.

The future never is. So why get bent over it?
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34071
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127

2/23/2009  6:32 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Even if our pick is no.1 or no. 20, we still don't have it.

It sucks, but its gone. Either way its not ours.

A Utah poster can go off he wants, as can Isles. It don't matter.

Rebuilding sucks. Live with it.

MDA has had three roster change overs this season and he still has matched our win total of last year.

Progress is being made, its just not evident on the future.

The future never is. So why get bent over it?

Good post...

It really is irrelevant. Someone gets in your face, tell them to eff off, but just move on. I hope the Knicks do make progress and Utah gets crap but at the end of the day it doesn't do anything to improve our situation as fans. Dwelling on a botched trade of a draft pick probably makes the experience of being a fan far worse.
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
garyclips
Posts: 20019
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/19/2008
Member: #2191
USA
2/24/2009  10:32 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by islesfan:

What did the guy say that wasn't true? You do realize that the Knicks are in the position to lose Lee and Nate for absolutely nothing this summer or severely handicap themselves in their oft stated goal of being a major player in free agency in the summer of 2010. And Jeffries and Curry would still be on the roster as Walsh chose not to use $28M in expiring contracts, Nate and Lee and the ability to eat another team's salary for a year. So many wasted opportunities.

if we end up losing Lee & Nate w/o getting anything back in return i'd say that might be a realistic assumption, but i don't think Donnie would let it get to that anyway, so it's sorta a moot point... he's either gonna sign & trade those guys for a player that will help this team, or he'll hold onto them... either way, he'd be a moron for letting them walk w/o getting anything back in return.

My point wasn't that they were going to lose them for nothing. It's that if they do sign and trade them or hold onto them all together, it severly hampers their ability to sign even a single top free agent in 2010. But if they do lose either of them for nothing, it would be ridiculously moronic.

One way or another the team has put itself in an enormous Catch-22 situation.

I think your wrong here. First
at most the cap hit between Nate and Lee will be around 15M in 2010/11. Without going through the numbers we should have room for one max contract.
Unless we are getting either Lebron or Wade nobody out there is worth max dollars. Does anyone want Bosh after this past weekend AT MAX DOLLARS.
Another thing is Curry will be under enormous pressure to at least redo his contract this summer since he has an optout. Since he was looking for the Knicks to front him some cash last year I think come this summer he would opt out on condition that the Knicks will max him out next year and Curry waiving his final year, upping his salary to around 17M. Yes he would lose about 4.5M on the deal but can make up some if not all by latching on to another club. In regards to Jeffries, he also has a player option for 2010/11. And unlike Curry's his contract is moveable. If not, he could be bought out for lets say 3.5M and I'm sure he can make what he would lose(3.3M) back with another club (Wiz?)

Someone needs to go to the Utah forum on realgm

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy