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New lineup? Does Wilcox start at C with Lee at PF--makes most sense to me
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PresIke
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2/19/2009  2:34 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

Wilcox-Lee-Harrington-Hughes-Duhon

Maybe not tomorrow night of course but within a week it should be.

That's what I think will happen eventually too.
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2/19/2009  2:34 PM
Posted by sebstar:

I'm smelling a tyson chandler like revival for Wilcox.

Wilcox does not rebound or block shots anywhere near as well as Chandler, but he is better than anything we have at C
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2/19/2009  3:13 PM
Wilcox has always been a good defender. He's not a help guy like Camby, he's more like Kurt Thomas. I think he will be very good here because he will get a lot of scoring chances and he's a guy that will defend bette when he's getting chances to score.
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2/19/2009  3:15 PM
He's athletic- if he tries to contest shots he's block more than anyone we currently have. Not saying a lot, but every little bit helps.
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2/19/2009  4:29 PM
C Wilcox/ Eddy Curry
D Lee/ J Jeffries
A Harrington/ W Chandler
L Hughes/ Q Rich
C Duhon/ N Robinson

I would rather give Danillo the minutes we would give Q Rich. But it may be best for him to just learn the game by watching, and practice. He is just 19. We have to give Jeffries minutes and Curry if we want to trade them, so it's going to be crazzzyyy seeing what D'Antoni does and how Walsh feels about it. Exciting though.
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2/19/2009  4:34 PM
Q Rich cannot play at all with Hughes here. That's just asking to lose. I hope Q Rich gets benched now. It's time for Gallinari to play. No more of this BS Mike.
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2/19/2009  4:36 PM
Amazing how this team is starting to actually look like a team
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2/19/2009  4:42 PM
I absolutely and vehemently disagree with Hughes starting over Chandler at 2 guard. Chandler has been developing his shot and play all year and is looking like he can be a really really good 2 guard with size and athletic ability

Larry Hughes is a DOWNGRADE from Chandler in every way. I can say OK we have Hughes for more guard bench depth but if the plan is to make him a main cog--what a blunder---he is very inconsistent--don't you guys think there might be a reason why he wasnt playing in Chicago. Chandler is a willing team player 21 years old with burgeoning skills. You don't replace that with a watered-down Crawford lite who is 30 with his bets days behind him./

I'll take action on when we hear the first boos for Larry Hughes--I'll give it two weeks.
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2/19/2009  4:42 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

Amazing how this team is starting to actually look like a team

In theory of roster balance, yes, in overall talent at those positions, I'll plead the fifth right now lol.
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2/19/2009  4:47 PM
This is how you go to war

C-Wilcox---35 minutes
F Lee--35 minutes
F Harrington 35 minutes
G Chandler 35 minutes
G Duhon 35 minutes
F Jefferies--15 minutes
G Nate Robinson 30 minutes
F Gallinari 10 minutes
Q Hughes 10 minutes

Q Rich Foul trouble
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2/19/2009  4:48 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

Amazing how this team is starting to actually look like a team

In theory of roster balance, yes, in overall talent at those positions, I'll plead the fifth right now lol.

I won't hide behind no ammendment, the talent sucks. But it feels like such huge progress to have a team that has a low talent level and is twelve deep at SF
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2/19/2009  4:58 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

This is how you go to war

C-Wilcox---35 minutes
F Lee--35 minutes
F Harrington 35 minutes
G Chandler 35 minutes
G Duhon 35 minutes
F Jefferies--15 minutes
G Nate Robinson 30 minutes
F Gallinari 10 minutes
Q Hughes 10 minutes

Q Rich Foul trouble

that's how i see it. Even downgrade Duhon's minutes to just over 30. I have no prob keeping JJ to 10 minutes too.
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2/19/2009  5:03 PM
i'd be surprised if Wilcox plays that much... we'll see, i guess. i still think Qrich gets some token minutes and sadly, probably stays the starter for a while.

Man, I really would have liked to see what this team looked like with Cuttino Mobley. He'd have been so much better than Q or Hughes.
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2/19/2009  5:14 PM
Curry needs to play for him to be dealt.

C-Wilcox---30 minutes
F Lee--35 minutes
F Harrington 35 minutes
G Chandler 35 minutes
G Duhon 33 minutes
F Jefferies--10 minutes
G Nate Robinson 30 minutes
F Gallinari 15 minutes
G Hughes 17 minutes

It will be tough to get him in the rotation. I would actually give all of Jeffries minutes to Curry. This is desperation time for us.
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2/19/2009  9:51 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

This is how you go to war

C-Wilcox---35 minutes
F Lee--35 minutes
F Harrington 35 minutes
G Chandler 35 minutes
G Duhon 35 minutes
F Jefferies--15 minutes
G Nate Robinson 30 minutes
F Gallinari 10 minutes
Q Hughes 10 minutes

Q Rich Foul trouble

that's how i see it. Even downgrade Duhon's minutes to just over 30. I have no prob keeping JJ to 10 minutes too.

Gallo will be playing more than 10 mpg by the end of the season, bank on it.
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2/19/2009  9:57 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

This is how you go to war

C-Wilcox---35 minutes
F Lee--35 minutes
F Harrington 35 minutes
G Chandler 35 minutes
G Duhon 35 minutes
F Jefferies--15 minutes
G Nate Robinson 30 minutes
F Gallinari 10 minutes
Q Hughes 10 minutes

Q Rich Foul trouble

that's how i see it. Even downgrade Duhon's minutes to just over 30. I have no prob keeping JJ to 10 minutes too.

You would only play Hughes 10 minutes? The guy is a knucklehead but he can be really good in this offense. I'd start him at the 2 and play him 30 minutes a game.
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2/20/2009  1:49 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by martin:
Posted by BRIGGS:

This is how you go to war

C-Wilcox---35 minutes
F Lee--35 minutes
F Harrington 35 minutes
G Chandler 35 minutes
G Duhon 35 minutes
F Jefferies--15 minutes
G Nate Robinson 30 minutes
F Gallinari 10 minutes
Q Hughes 10 minutes

Q Rich Foul trouble

that's how i see it. Even downgrade Duhon's minutes to just over 30. I have no prob keeping JJ to 10 minutes too.

You would only play Hughes 10 minutes? The guy is a knucklehead but he can be really good in this offense. I'd start him at the 2 and play him 30 minutes a game.

Why would I not start him at the two guard and give him 30 minutes? Because I have a 21 yer old 6-8 athletic player who is a superior talent who should be here for 10 years. I don't see how i can take minutes away from Duhon Nate or Chandler if you are talking 30-35 minutes. The position of need was C--Hughes will be good for having off the bench. If he is inserted into the starting lineup--the Knicks could crumble. He's a chemistry wrecker. Off the bench in 10-15 minute stints--thats OK in terms of keeping guys fresh.

He hasn't had a good year in 4 years--why should he get minutes over any of the guys here except Q? Why make guys that were here unhappy? I think we have something with Wilcox--but we have to be careful with Hughes.
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2/20/2009  7:48 AM
First, take Jeffries out of the rotation. Start Wilcox in his place. Start Hughes at sg.

Starting lineup
Wilcox - C
Lee - Pf
Harrington/Chandler - Sf
Hughes - Sg
Duhon - Pg

Rotation Reserves
Chandler/Harrington
Q
Nate
Gallo



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2/20/2009  8:02 AM
Basically, I think the trades make us a little better defensively. I don't know if they're enough to put is in the eighth spot for the playoffs, but it does give us a better chance.
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2/20/2009  10:05 AM
I don't care whether or not we're trying to make the playoffs. Wilson Chandler needs to play and Wilson Chandler needs to START. We need to see if Wilson is going to be a NY Knick starter for the next 10 years.

The starting lineup (no-brainer to me) once Hughes is in game shape:

Wilcox C
Lee PF
Chandler SF
Hughes SG
Duhon PG

All those players are well defined at their respective positions.
Nate and Al are great fire-power-off-the-bench options.
Gallinari gets eased into the process.

I could care less whether QRich or Jeffries see any burn.
New lineup? Does Wilcox start at C with Lee at PF--makes most sense to me

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