Posted by VDesai:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by VDesai:

Supreme- but your basically made an argument for eFG% with what you wrote. Actually when you look at TS%- since it takes into account how great Kevin Martin is at getting to the line, it moves him up to the 28th most efficient offensive player in the league by that measure and far better represents his true value than just his .419% FG%

Yeah, I guess I did... maybe the better way to put it is I prefer to interpret that from the base stats. I think that Durant should be reward for shooting less threes at a higher percentage though.

I understand Martin is a more efficient player though than his shooting percentage... but I imagine Jamal Crawford appears pretty efficient because he shoots well from the line

But it doesn't over inflate him, because it takes into account the amount of times he gets to the line and the amount of shots in the denominator

TS% = Pts/(2*(FGA + (.44*FTA)))

oh... to be honest, I have spent much time learning these stats... I guess I like them and didn't even realize it

Do you know where that coefficient came from?

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by VDesai:

Supreme- but your basically made an argument for eFG% with what you wrote. Actually when you look at TS%- since it takes into account how great Kevin Martin is at getting to the line, it moves him up to the 28th most efficient offensive player in the league by that measure and far better represents his true value than just his .419% FG%

Yeah, I guess I did... maybe the better way to put it is I prefer to interpret that from the base stats. I think that Durant should be reward for shooting less threes at a higher percentage though.

I understand Martin is a more efficient player though than his shooting percentage... but I imagine Jamal Crawford appears pretty efficient because he shoots well from the line

But it doesn't over inflate him, because it takes into account the amount of times he gets to the line and the amount of shots in the denominator

TS% = Pts/(2*(FGA + (.44*FTA)))

oh... to be honest, I have spent much time learning these stats... I guess I like them and didn't even realize it

Do you know where that coefficient came from?

Its an adjustment factor for FTs. Because basketball analysts usually express statistics in terms of possessions, an adjustment needs to be made for the fact that two free throws do not always constitute a possession. Three-point plays, three-shot fouls, and technicals all increase the number of free throws per possession. Thus, we need to use something less than 0.5 when multiplying by free throws to calculate possessions. They'e done some analysis on this and the number came out to be 0.44.

Posted by VDesai:

So in other words, you have to adjust it down by 0.5 because you get 2 FTs per possesion, but because of 3 pt plays, that number isn't exactly 0.5.

Good stuff. Thanks V

Posted by Andrew:

Posted by islesfan:

It's not a wonder when that single player is taking half of those extra field goal attempts.

How do you determine this?

I don't know what you guys are arguing about but I'm taking Isle's side regardless, because I hate Andrew.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Andrew:

Posted by islesfan:

It's not a wonder when that single player is taking half of those extra field goal attempts.

How do you determine this?

I don't know what you guys are arguing about but I'm taking Isle's side regardless, because I hate Andrew.

Newbie, did you pay Allanfan yet?

f everyone

Posted by Marv:

he's taking this well.

You mean that ballboy, Bippity? Who the eff cares what a newb thinks

Oh and who's the new guy? Bippity? Sounds like a dude who never played ball is his life, wouldn't know the first thing about coaching, and definitely not a guy that will last on this board. But welcome anyway.

Thank God I created an ignore button for myself.

I care about a guy's numbers being inflated by a system. Like, is it about the number of posts made, or the quality of insight related in those posts?