Posted by Bippity10:

So you guys can't understand why as an owner/GM he would rather pay a guy 22 million to sit home than to pay him to play for someone else? Not saying I agree with it, but to me it's pretty understandable.

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Posted by tkf:

exactly.. I have encountered guys like this before. In and out of the business world, and all you can do is not deal with them if you don't have to, and if you have the upper hand, you are put in no other position than to "kick them in the nuts" so to speak. Guys like marbury are stupid, unreasonable and stubborn.... As you said, the knicks would have let him negotiate a deal with another team(if the rules allow a player to do that with the teams permission) and then just take the buyout from the knicks especially if his new contract covered the money he gave up to get free from the knicks.. Sounds simple to me...

He's a tough one to deal with but it's not entirely his fault.

Just think about it open minded. He was brought here to be the savior, the prodigal son, he was put into a lineup of Layden's blue collar hard working crap, and took them to the playoffs.

He was then to take a back seat to Crawful of all people, told now he has to be Eric Snow rather than be the gunner he's always been.

He was given free reign of the front office something no player has ever had in any capacity.

He was trashed by Larry Brown - before Brown became coach - and when he became coach - he targeted Marbury IMMEDIATELY.

Isiah takes over and inexplicably, instead of telling Steph the ball was his and do what you do, was continued to be told to be Eric Snow or you'd sit.

Then the whole InternBury incident happens, Anucha happens, and TruckBury buries Dolan and Isiah at the trial. Then it was on...it was obvious the whole Phoenix plane fight was Isiah trying to get back at Marbury for tanking the trial.

Walsh takes over and tells Steph to get in the best shape of his life. HE DOES. Mike D takes his Phoenix grudge of 5 years old against Marbury and brings it to New York - why nobody will know - but he did. Steph still accepted the bench role in preseason. Grudgingly but he still did. Then he's embarassingly benched for the start of the season without being told why. Then he's told we're going in a direction that does not include him. He's exiled. Then told after a trade that he has a place here and he declined.

...and here we are.

He's a tough nut but let's face facts here: He was horribly mis-managed and it's easy to understand why things went so badly with him.

I think he was offered something reasonable in November: Give up 3M and go free. He declined so then well screw him I guess at this point.

Send him home, tell him he's free to sign wherever he wants when his contract expires in July, and be done with it.

But, No, despite pretending to be the good guys wronged by the bad evil Marbury, we drag it out multiple times all season long with meaningless meetings. So, a lot of it is on us, as to why this continues beyond any logical boundaries.

I don't like Marbury but if you look at the FACTS you cannot in any way just blame him for everything that's gone on. He is in the right in several complaints here.

I just wish it'd end though. Too much ***** footing for my taste.

Posted by franco12:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Ira:

Sometimes you have to compromise and sometimes you have to give in. This is not one of those times.

the Knicks have tried to cater to Marbury ever since he got here... they've hired & fired coaches because he couldn't get along w/them, they've traded for & traded away players because he didn't like playing with them, now they've expressed their willingness to back down a few million bucks from their original buyout offer & attempted to meet Steph somewhere in the middle, & yet all Stephon Marbury is willing to do is knock $1.4 million off the money that's due on his contract, even though he'd easily be compensated that amount by any team he would sign with after they gave him his release... who's the one being unreasonable here, the Knicks or Stephon Marbury? you're absolutely right, the Knicks have been bent over the chair enough times by this guy, they need to hold firm now & not let him dictate the terms on this buyout any longer... if he doesn't wanna play ball, let him rot, bottomline.

No- on the $1.4 million, if I understand correctly, he wants his $400k that he was fined back before allowing the $1 million buy out to stand.

my understanding is that he was willing to waive his $400K fine appeal if the Knicks would agree to the $1 mil buyout he offered.

Dolan is guilty of being a moron & a knucklehead but he hasn't been raping fans for years... he's consistently spent more money on his roster than most other owners in the NBA... that doesn't indicate that he's trying to gouge fans, it just means he's been stupid enough to hire people who couldn't effectively run his franchise for him, & for his part he's been too stupid to realize it until it was too late & the damage had already been done.

as for your Larry Brown single handedly making us a certified circus act statement, i guess your boy Marbury had nothing at all to do with that whole fiasco? he's just an innocent victim in all this cuz he came in this year ready to play & in shape... hurray for Marbs.

But what do they get for paying him to sit home, the last laugh..This thing is ridiculous and he's taking up a roster spot were so despert for. So again how are the knicks benifiting from this.

It's like throwing millions at a striper who's never going to so much as give you a lap dance.

The joke on you if you think he's worrying about playing for a contender this season. I see no problem in sitting out a year and any self absorb business man would say the same.