Posted by BlueSeats:

You don't have to wait a day, we already know Reed and Clyde and Patrick and Oakley didn't require a pretty atmosphere before they'd play their guts out.

A good team will make a good atmosphere.

Posted by BlueSeats:

You're being weay too literal with that "Boston Sucks" stuff. It's just an expedient way if saying "I hate Boston" which includes all the pain of being inferior to them. When I was a season ticket holder I always used to shout out "Riley Sucks" whenever Miami played us, but the truth is I loved Riley (as a coach) and was expressing the pain of him ditching our team. Smart players love the boos. Reggie Miller loved being the villain because he knew it meant he struck fear in our hearts.

I agree NY is tough, especially when you're down - but that ain't changing. If you don't want it, don't sign the contract. I was also there when Patrick's teams would have a lackluster first half and get booed at halftime and then come out on fire. Some teams get motivated by the pressure.

And if this were Utah, would this team of bench dudes really have a better record?

Posted by BasketballJones:

I don't believe that New York is the problem. I think the problem is with the Knicks franchise and, particularly, Dolan's leadership of it. We are hopefully going to change that with Walsh and D'Antoni, but we won't know that for a while.

That's not to say that playing in New York doesn't present special challenges. It does, but that hasn't stopped the Yankees (for example) from being a successful franchise.

Posted by 4949:

Read carefully and fully:

Well, in reading the rest of what you guys said, I guess it was a little far fetched to solely say it's the fans and media. But this massive winning streaks, followed by massive losing streaks is the same as a few years ago. That's what I was curious about.

I mean, I can see we lose two, win one, lose two more, win three, lose three, win one, lose one, win two, lose three is much more normal kind of streaks. Going 9-7 for January, with the last six games were we went 5-1 and then we play the top three in a row and just keep falling.

There just seemed to be some kind of connection with these streaks. Not to mention that we lost the last two to two of some of the lousiest teams in the league. That's obviously a mental laps.

But what's causing it is my whole question? I can understand when your losing, but why is it so specifically this kind of winning - losing? It's like being on drugs and then the drugs suddenly wear off. This happened three years ago. Why is it happening again with this team, with a different coach? This has been happening under three coaches now. Coincidence??

Is it possible to do the same thing over and over regarding these streaks, and doing it under different circumstances? We've had Curry, Marbury, Lee and Nate for about that long, but this time Marbury and Curry are basically gone. Lee has improved vastly on the offensive end and Nate is still just being Nate. It appears the Duhon has been some what a blessing in disguise.

Zach and Crawford are both gone, but I don't think it was them specifically either, because they just ended up on the winning end, both twice in a row. Not to mention, with the old teams, we had a full staff of players and for the most part this year, it has been greatly reduced, with the same kinds of results.

The other thing is also, the Knicks basically beat some qualities teams towards the end of the January, so we know they are capable of beating those kinds of teams. And I can understand losing to the top three, but losing to a quality team and two way under .500 teams now?

I'm trying to put my finger on it, but it's been very difficult, hence my sig and the fact that I suggested that maybe it's us and the media. So what is it that causes this team to have so maybe ups and downs, bundled up in hordes of streaks?? Was it fair to us to have to play the top three teams, three games in a row? Was it that demoralizing to these Knicks to have to lose three in a row, after trying so hard to win (and they did put everything they had into those games) that they have lost their touch again? All professional NBA teams are professional because they can regroup under difficult circumstances. Are these guys just not professional enough?

I have one other possibility, that I hate to bring up again and have been harping on it with the progress of Lopez, but our problems seem to go back as long as we haven't had a legit, proper center since Ewing was sent packing. Is that, could that be the sole problem with this teams big ups and downs?

I still think it's a very important question.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by 4949:

Read carefully and fully:

Well, in reading the rest of what you guys said, I guess it was a little far fetched to solely say it's the fans and media. But this massive winning streaks, followed by massive losing streaks is the same as a few years ago. That's what I was curious about.

I mean, I can see we lose two, win one, lose two more, win three, lose three, win one, lose one, win two, lose three is much more normal kind of streaks. Going 9-7 for January, with the last six games were we went 5-1 and then we play the top three in a row and just keep falling.

There just seemed to be some kind of connection with these streaks. Not to mention that we lost the last two to two of some of the lousiest teams in the league. That's obviously a mental laps.

But what's causing it is my whole question? I can understand when your losing, but why is it so specifically this kind of winning - losing? It's like being on drugs and then the drugs suddenly wear off. This happened three years ago. Why is it happening again with this team, with a different coach? This has been happening under three coaches now. Coincidence??

Is it possible to do the same thing over and over regarding these streaks, and doing it under different circumstances? We've had Curry, Marbury, Lee and Nate for about that long, but this time Marbury and Curry are basically gone. Lee has improved vastly on the offensive end and Nate is still just being Nate. It appears the Duhon has been some what a blessing in disguise.

Zach and Crawford are both gone, but I don't think it was them specifically either, because they just ended up on the winning end, both twice in a row. Not to mention, with the old teams, we had a full staff of players and for the most part this year, it has been greatly reduced, with the same kinds of results.

The other thing is also, the Knicks basically beat some qualities teams towards the end of the January, so we know they are capable of beating those kinds of teams. And I can understand losing to the top three, but losing to a quality team and two way under .500 teams now?

I'm trying to put my finger on it, but it's been very difficult, hence my sig and the fact that I suggested that maybe it's us and the media. So what is it that causes this team to have so maybe ups and downs, bundled up in hordes of streaks?? Was it fair to us to have to play the top three teams, three games in a row? Was it that demoralizing to these Knicks to have to lose three in a row, after trying so hard to win (and they did put everything they had into those games) that they have lost their touch again? All professional NBA teams are professional because they can regroup under difficult circumstances. Are these guys just not professional enough?

I have one other possibility, that I hate to bring up again and have been harping on it with the progress of Lopez, but our problems seem to go back as long as we haven't had a legit, proper center since Ewing was sent packing. Is that, could that be the sole problem with this teams big ups and downs?

I still think it's a very important question.

Why beat yourself over the head with this. I gave you the answer to your question. I'm not making this crap up. What I said is happening...IS HAPPENING