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Pharzeone
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1/29/2009  8:10 PM
Fans that keep voting for Garnett should be ashame of themselves. 16 and 9 aren't starter numbers either.
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1/29/2009  8:13 PM
he is the point guard on one of the top teams in the east if Nelson makes it so should MO
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1/29/2009  8:16 PM
Yeah I was surprised Mo didn't make it too. Although I do think Nelson is deserving of it. I guess it would have been weird to put both of them on.
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1/29/2009  8:24 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

So why did Nash get not only NBA all star bids but two MVPs to top it of. That is the problem with the NBA, no consistency. When people were screaming about Nash just being a product of D'Antoni's offense, the press were saying cool it. It is all Nash but now, with a Knick having great success, it all about the offense. Lee was putting up double doubles before D'Antoni was on the Knick sideline.

Hey I always maintained that Nash was a product of D'Antoni's system. He's obviously a good player, but playing in that system made him a GREAT player.
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1/29/2009  8:25 PM
Posted by King1:

he is the point guard on one of the top teams in the east if Nelson makes it so should MO

nelson does far more than mo. i like mo, but come on. nelson has been playing extremely well this year.
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1/29/2009  8:30 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Fans that keep voting for Garnett should be ashame of themselves. 16 and 9 aren't starter numbers either.

Wow 16 and 9? I wasn't even aware of that!!! David Lee is having a better season statistically that KG!?!?!?! Wow!....Wow indeed!
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1/29/2009  8:33 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Fans that keep voting for Garnett should be ashame of themselves. 16 and 9 aren't starter numbers either.

Wow 16 and 9? I wasn't even aware of that!!! David Lee is having a better season statistically that KG!?!?!?! Wow!....Wow indeed!

unless you count blocks, assists, defense and wins.

garnett's stats are down because boston started 27-3 and he rarely played in the 4th quarter for a lot of the first 30 games.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 29-01-2009 8:36 PM]
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1/29/2009  8:36 PM
Yes- D'Antoni's system inflates numbers, but you need a high IQ to execute.

Anyone think Eddy Curry would have similar numbers.

That's fine Lee not making it- helps keep his value down.

And I don't think the All Star Game is ever about players that are blue collar, hard working types. Guys with super star talent make it.

Joke though Shaq making it, in a way.
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1/29/2009  8:40 PM
only way lee would make the all-star team with these numbers is if the knicks were a top 3 seed in the East. i agree with the philosophy that if you aren't willing to take the last shot and create your own shot in crunch time, can you really be an all-star? also, his defense is not good. i love him, but him being an all-star over bosh would be insane.
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1/29/2009  8:44 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?
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1/29/2009  8:45 PM
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I tried to erase it before someone like you got a hold of it. My bad. My mistake. Never mind.
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1/29/2009  8:45 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Lee does not have the same impact Bosh does. Let's get serious.
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1/29/2009  8:46 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Bosh is a near superstar. He was included in MVP talks for the first month of the season. he fell off, but a lot of that had to do with injuries to Calderon and JOneal. Bosh is a better player than Lee. What do you think Bosh would put up in this system, in Lee's role? 26ppg and 13rpg?
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1/29/2009  8:46 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Lee does not have the same impact Bosh does. Let's get serious.

Definitely. Bosh's impact has been such a savior for Toronto, otherwise they'd be at the bottom of the Atlantic.
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1/29/2009  8:48 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Lee does not have the same impact Bosh does. Let's get serious.

Definitely. Bosh's impact has been such a savior for Toronto, otherwise they'd be at the bottom of the Atlantic.

Do you understand that if Bosh was on this team he'd be putting up 25 and 12? Where is Steve Nash now? He's not even pn the all star roster. Lee is a product of the system. That doesn't mean he sucks but he's not better than Bosh.
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1/29/2009  8:49 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Bosh is a near superstar. He was included in MVP talks for the first month of the season. he fell off, but a lot of that had to do with injuries to Calderon and JOneal. Bosh is a better player than Lee. What do you think Bosh would put up in this system, in Lee's role? 26ppg and 13rpg?

In all fairness, Bosh and Lee are two different kinds of players. They'd compliment each other very if they were teammates. It's a little silly to compare them to each other.
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1/29/2009  8:50 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Lee does not have the same impact Bosh does. Let's get serious.

Definitely. Bosh's impact has been such a savior for Toronto, otherwise they'd be at the bottom of the Atlantic.

Do you understand that if Bosh was on this team he'd be putting up 25 and 12? Where is Steve Nash now? He's not even pn the all star roster. Lee is a product of the system. That doesn't mean he sucks but he's not better than Bosh.

I agree with what you're saying in a way, but its unfair to blame Lee for the cards (D'antoni) he was dealt.

If people are going to say "Lee didn't make it because of the system" they should have NEVER handed 2 MVPs to Steve Nash.
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1/29/2009  8:51 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Bosh is a near superstar. He was included in MVP talks for the first month of the season. he fell off, but a lot of that had to do with injuries to Calderon and JOneal. Bosh is a better player than Lee. What do you think Bosh would put up in this system, in Lee's role? 26ppg and 13rpg?

In all fairness, Bosh and Lee are two different kinds of players. They'd compliment each other very if they were teammates. It's a little silly to compare them to each other.

people are saying Lee should make the all-star team over KG and Bosh. in all fairness, that's insane. i love david lee. i love how hard he works, but he is just not near the same level as those players.
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1/29/2009  8:52 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Bosh is a near superstar. He was included in MVP talks for the first month of the season. he fell off, but a lot of that had to do with injuries to Calderon and JOneal. Bosh is a better player than Lee. What do you think Bosh would put up in this system, in Lee's role? 26ppg and 13rpg?

In all fairness, Bosh and Lee are two different kinds of players. They'd compliment each other very if they were teammates. It's a little silly to compare them to each other.

people are saying Lee should make the all-star team over KG and Bosh. in all fairness, that's insane. i love david lee. i love how hard he works, but he is just not near the same level as those players.

With KG, yes. I just don't think Chris Bosh is a special player. He hasn't done anything thus far in his career, and its not looking too good either future wise.
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1/29/2009  8:54 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by GKFv2:

Take Bosh off the Raptors and they have 5 wins max.

Take Lee off the Knicks and they're nowhere near the playoff race, whats your point ?

Lee does not have the same impact Bosh does. Let's get serious.

Definitely. Bosh's impact has been such a savior for Toronto, otherwise they'd be at the bottom of the Atlantic.

Do you understand that if Bosh was on this team he'd be putting up 25 and 12? Where is Steve Nash now? He's not even pn the all star roster. Lee is a product of the system. That doesn't mean he sucks but he's not better than Bosh.

I agree with what you're saying in a way, but its unfair to blame Lee for the cards (D'antoni) he was dealt.

If people are going to say "Lee didn't make it because of the system" they should have NEVER handed 2 MVPs to Steve Nash.

a lot of people feel that way about Nash.

also, Bosh is averaging 23ppg 10rpg 1bpg. it's not like Lee has better numbers than Bosh.

the knicks are a balanced team and i think that, honestly, if we had an all-star candidate it should have been Duhon, but he is not quite as good as Nelson, Mo Williams or Rondo. but Duhon is the glue on this team and the reason a lot of guys have good numbers.
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