Posted by Cosmic:

Either Dolan decides it's worth saving 2M dollars (1M + 1M tax not paid) to let him go or he decides it's worth 2M extra dollars to keep him here until the summer to make him squirm.

At this point it's halfway through the year. We've paid him 11M dollars to do nothing. So we either pay him another 11M dollars to do nothing or 10M to go away (again, this would save Dolan 2M because of the tax implications.)

At this point what would you do? Would you save the 2M dollars and let him go? Or spend an additional 2M dollars to "punish" him? That's all up to Dolan's ego I suppose.

I guess Dolan can just punish him. As long as Marbury is not around the team Dolan should not care. All Dolan really has to do is wait it out until the end of the season and everything should be fine. At this point Marbury is not even a factor to fans or hurting the organization. The only one paying the price at this point is Marbury because he will go a whole season with out playing. At the beginning of the season it looked like both sides were hurting. However now things look one sided.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Cosmic:

Either Dolan decides it's worth saving 2M dollars (1M + 1M tax not paid) to let him go or he decides it's worth 2M extra dollars to keep him here until the summer to make him squirm.

At this point it's halfway through the year. We've paid him 11M dollars to do nothing. So we either pay him another 11M dollars to do nothing or 10M to go away (again, this would save Dolan 2M because of the tax implications.)

At this point what would you do? Would you save the 2M dollars and let him go? Or spend an additional 2M dollars to "punish" him? That's all up to Dolan's ego I suppose.

Or you can look at it another way. If you are paying him anyway, why would you pay him to play somewhere else? If you are paying him anyway, why wouldn't you hold on to him and see if you can get something for him? You may as well, you are paying him anyway. In summary: Nobody likes to pay someone who is playing elsewhere.

Exactly.

Posted by Solace:

There's no reason it should be pro-rated. The Knicks have been paying him despite him not playing. Any numbers you hear aren't pro-rated. That being said, Marbury needs to sweeten the pot. I agree with BBJ, that this means that no team is offering him more than the veteran's minimum.

I like it when people agree with me.

Posted by 4949:

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by Solace:

There's no reason it should be pro-rated. The Knicks have been paying him despite him not playing. Any numbers you hear aren't pro-rated. That being said, Marbury needs to sweeten the pot. I agree with BBJ, that this means that no team is offering him more than the veteran's minimum.

I like it when people agree with me.

the blind leading the blind.

Ouch. Brutal!

Papabear Says

If only Marbs would have played in those game that Mike D. asked him to, and he did his best. teams from across the country would have saw that. Yes Marbs would be eating crow but he would have gotten a little respect because he came into camp in the best shape he's been in years. All he had to do was swallow his pride and play when called upon but he refused to do that. Now he still does not know what time it is and that's sad. I really do not believe that he will make ten million next year.

Posted by Papabear:

Papabear Says

If only Marbs would have played in those game that Mike D. asked him to, and he did his best. teams from across the country would have saw that. Yes Marbs would be eating crow but he would have gotten a little respect because he came into camp in the best shape he's been in years. All he had to do was swallow his pride and play when called upon but he refused to do that. Now he still does not know what time it is and that's sad. I really do not believe that he will make ten million next year.

Agreed- a little false humility would have gone a long way

Posted by K22:

Am I alone in thinking that there's a good chance he may wind up flat broke after he leaves the game?

I'm sure he's gonna have some kind of financial trouble as soon as he leaves the game. Things he did that he will end up in debt for. If he's smart (and he's not) he'd put whatever money he has now into the best investments he can find, make more money and be able to have a large sum, while paying off whatever is to come, something that no one really knows about yet.

I'd invent 'THE #3' sticker. Yes, buy three for a buck and tatoo it on the side of your head. Now everyone can be a dope. Of course you'll have to go bald first.

You'd figure he can sell about 1 million of them and make one million dollars right there. If he makes it in three colors, then that three million more. That's just one lame brain idea he could do. I bet he wishes he didn't sell his tenny's so low a few years back now. And didn't he buy an air plain last year? With executives getting scolded for using private jets in this economy, it's gonna be hard to resell that puppy for what he bought it for. Poor Marbury always making bad investments. Yup, it's not just you that thinks this. I think it to.

Posted by K22:

Am I alone in thinking that there's a good chance he may wind up flat broke after he leaves the game?

i think he's got a good concept for a hit Reality game show... we all love "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire"... Steph can host "Who Wants To Be A Broke Former Millionaire"... maybe tattoo a -$ sign on the other side of his head

cha-ching.


[Edited by - TMS on 01-19-2009 9:19 PM]

Posted by 4949:

Good point about being able to play again, if only had agreed. All of that hype about how he didn't say a thing, while sitting and waiting. And then he started to make the point about how he didn't say a thing, breaking his word not be say a thing by speaking and then bad mouthing all over again. He's a phony and he's been exposed. He exposed himself. Marbury did it all to himself. Perfect example of what not to do when investing in your best commodity. Yourself. Representation means everything in the world of business. Marbury is finished and the sooner he is gone, the sooner we won't be talking about it anymore.

He is a phony we all know what he is about but even then he did nothing wrong this year. He absolutely came into training camp very lean and in great shape. He was not happy to hear he would be a reserve but he accepted it and played well during preseason. Then he got flat out ditched.

To be honest I don't fault him for being upset. Also he does have a guaranteed contract and it's very easy for us to sit here and say F-Him and expect him to give up 3, 5, 8 million dollars because we dislike him. Yet I have no problem with him refusing to do so. Imagine what he can do with that money for his family and his charitable contributions? Hate him all we want as a player but the man is a GREAT community man so I don't fault him for not accepting a ludicrous buy out.

Now as I said it's come down to the fact that no matter what we have to pay him. So does our owner accept a 1M (2M with tax) grace on his monster contract? Of which is already fully half paid to him to do nothing? Or is it so imperitive we don't allow him to join another team and hurt us (as if we're in any position to be hurt by him going anywhere) or do we really want to punish him (deny him a chance to play well and get a decent 3 year MLE contract in the offseason)???

That's what it has come down to.

My instinct still says just accept the 1M off of the 11M still owed, know you're actually saving 2M, and you're putting the mess to bed. On the other hand if we just tell him to stay home and pay him his full 11M still owed that's probably fine too - it's now so late in the season and it's dragged on so long that there's no healing to be gained by parting ways anymore.

Regardless I wish it would just end. One way or another. A final statement no matter what it is.