Second Team Most Lovable

Tom and Dick VanArsdale
"Jumpin' Johnny Green
Glen Gondrezick with the high socks
Mel "Killer" Davis
Marvin "The Eraser" Webster

if u combined Nate or D Lee w/Curry u can easily dump his contract.

TMS - easily?

Not so fast homey-domey. You mean to tell me that in a shrining economy, a team WANTS to pay Eddy's chedda on top of the chedda that David Lee's agent thinks he is worth after putting up a solid double-double season (AND who also happens to be an attractive marketable commodity)?

That's a lot of money.

Like I was sayin', if Donnie pulls that off he can have the next David Blaine Special.

Marv - x was rugged and raw, but was he lovable?

Derek harper - feisty for sure, but lovable?

Lonnie shelton - highly skilled and missed in Seattle. Kinda lovable in a long-distance sense

Michael Ray Richardson - tragically lovable in retrospect

You want lovable?

Dancing Harry was lovable

Ray Williams - dug the 'fro and he was from Mount Vernon, love the 4th Street playground

i'll take back whatever dreck there is as long as those contracts expire after next season & we can get that mid-late 1st round pick in the process.

as for what teams have expendable garbage, come on dude, are u serious? there's plenty of players in the NBA w/2009 expirings that can match up the dollars... a combination of players is fine too, or we can work a 3 way... there's lots of different ways u can go about dumping Curry's contract & still get back a pick... that pick & that cap space is essential to our 2010 plan

[Edited by - TMS on 01-13-2009 3:52 PM]

TMS - hell no

Read my lips, in the new economy first round picks are like gold.

you really think Mark Cuban is that dumb?

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by TMS:

for example, u don't think an offer of D Lee & Curry would land us Stackhouse, garbage filler like Mbenga & Devean George, & DAL's 1st rounder unprotected? i sure think it would... & that's probably the worst possible package i can think of from a Knicks' perspective to get back for Curry & D Lee... i'm sure Donnie could work some borderline playoff contenders for a better package than that.

Mbenga plays on the Lakers.

whatever... the point is there's tons of deals u can work like that w/teams looking to shore up their frontcourt for a playoff run.

I still think the following trade with Washington makes a lot of sense for both teams:

Lee, Duhon, Malik's expiring, Roberson for *Etan Thomas, Mike James, JaVale McGee, Nick Young and their 2009 2nd rounder. Be nice to grab Javaris Crittenton as well, but that might be asking for too much.

Washington gets A HUGE UPGRADE with the younger Lee/Duhon package over Thomas/James - the fact that Lee and Duhon actually excel playing together is another added benefit for Washington. Getting a steady pass-first PG like Duhon would allow Agent Zero to come back and play the 2 where he's probably at his best anyway (Arenas is a scorer first and foremost). If they got Lee and drafted a guy like Griffin, Thabeet or Jordan Hill with Arenas coming back - look out for the Wizards next season. They'd be a totally different team, one that could really make some noise -

1 - Duhon/Arenas/Crittenton
2 - Arenas/Butler/Stevenson/Crittenton
3 - Butler/Jamison/McGuire
4 - Lee/Jamison/Blatche/Songaila
5 - Blake Griffin, Hasheem Thabeet or Jordan Hill/Blatche/Haywood/Pecherov

That's a lot of talent, a lot of youth, a lot of interchangeability and a lot of firepower...

The Knicks would get Etan Thomas & Mike James for the interim who are both still serviceable enough to help keep this thing together for the next yr. and a half. Both guys come off the books in time for 2010 FA. And we get 3 nice young building blocks to work into the lineup - JaVale McGee (big and athletic with a lot of talent - is he the next Marcus Camby? Who knows, the Wizards barely play the guy), Nick Young (playing real well for the Wizards lately, 28 @ Chi. a few days ago, 30 last night against Milwaukee at home - this kid becomes our starting 2 guard) and that EARLY 2009 2nd round pick that we could either grab a decent player with like Taj Gibson or package together with something else to move up in the draft. Now if we tank out the rest of the way and maximize that draft pick (maybe we snag a Jeff Teague who could be the next Dwayne Wade), together with those 3 newly acquired building blocks along with Gallo, Chandler and Nate, we'd be in pretty decent shape moving forward ourselves. Add a bigtime FA or two in 2010, who knows, we could be ready to finally start making some noise ourselves...

*Just saw on ESPN that Thomas tore a ligament in his left knee - even if he wasn't 100% by the trading deadline I'd still do this deal if I were the Knicks.


[Edited by - finestrg on 01-13-2009 10:25 PM]

like i said, if u find my explanations lacking that's your problem... D Lee & Nate are both attractive trade chips & i think it's reasonable to assume you could use those guys as pieces to dump Curry's contract & still get back a mid-late 1st round pick... but go ahead & keep throwing your backhanded sarcasm my way... it's not changing my opinion.